Subject: Interesting reading, but...
GWB's (I am assuming that this is who "smirk" is) intelligence has not been tested that I know of.
You are correct.
The fastest way to test his intelligence would be to let him speak
without Cheney providing
the answers to pre-approved questions. On the rare occasions when Bush
takes questions,
he answers with "We're working on the details" or "I'll have that answer
shortly."
He in incapable of thinking on his own. Granted, that's just my opinion,
but if I'm wrong
why doesn't he hold live prime time press conferences that include
follow ups?
Then again, if Mr Rove is in the room, the press will be afraid to
ask anything substantive.
He may not be an intellectual like his predecessor. This is not really that important, anyway.
Hell, no. Why should the man in charge of the planet be an intellectual?
After all, he has Condi and Uncle Dick to answer tough questions, right?
Being an honorable man is important.
Having people believe what you say is.
Having the country's best interests at heart
is. GWB beats his predecessor handily in these areas.
For years, Rush has teased Clinton (in his baby talk voice) for "always
wanting to help the starving
children and help the poor people and help the lazy minorities," whereas
Bush has cut taxes for the
oil companies who are making never-before-seen profits by gouging California
households.
...but if you say Bush has the country's best interests at heart, Koresh
bless you.
GWB is not as charismatic as his predecessor
(he does beat last years opponent).
Again not very important unless you are shallow
enough to fall for that sort of stuff.
I admit, I voted for GWB because I liked the
ideas he proposed.
So far he has kept more promises than his
predecessor did in eight years.
A groundless claim, but we can't get deep into every one, now can we?
I noticed at least a few names on the list
of folks who were Clinton supporters (J. Williams, Steffanopolous)
and if they did hatchet jobs on BC, then they
probably saw all of his associates he hung out to dry to protect
his skin and just followed his example.
Who did Clinton hang out to dry?
And, if true, why would you accept that as an excuse for others to
do the same?
I notice that you deal in derogatory names
for those you do not like, whether true or not and,
if true not very provable. BC (and his
protege AG) are documented liars. They did it again and again
in the press and on TV. This point is
not debatable for anyone with any reason amount of objectivity.
I'll admit Clinton lied about sex if you'll admit Reagan lied about selling Stingers to a terrorist nation.
For those with some objectivity who were steadfast
BC supporters, I feel sorry.
You must have been very embarrassed by your
standard bearer, time and time again.
Not me.
I was embarrassed that the country went on a nine year journey inside
his zipper
to see what juicy "scandals" Richard Mellon Scaife was willing to finance.
Hopefully you voted for him only because he
supported views close to yours.
For those who have little or no objectivity
(symptoms include thinking Bill & Hillary could do no wrong,
Nobody ever said that...
Why would you claim anybody did?
...the impeachment was only about sex and had nothing to do with lying under oath,
Take away the sex and tell me what he lied about.
And again, compare Clinton's lies to Reagan or Bush, would you?
"No weapons on those two small planes to Iran." and "I was out of the
loop for Iran-Contra,"
both of which were major lies about American policy with lives and
millions of dollars at stake.
How you can condemn Clinton for lying about a blow job and let Reagan/Bush
off for lying
about stealing weapons from our military to give to Islamic Jihad
then lying about it,
then finally having to pardon the whole gang to keep the truth buried,
is beyond me.
...that we ought to have the kind of country
where we would take Henry Hyde and family out
and stone them (bonus points if you
know who said this and got almost a total pass)
Duh!
Rush has mentioned that JOKE Alec Baldwin told every day for
three years.
If Baldwin was serious about murdering Hyde, why wasn't he arrested?
Because Ken Starr was too fair and didn't want to cause trouble?
...and have turned off your brain long before
you reached this line or have stopped reading it, anyway),
my observation is that you are little different
than the hateful spawn of real right wing extremists
(sorry, the bulk of the NRA does not fall
in this category).
This is a comedy site. I've said that from day one,
And for someone who condemns Clinton's sexcapades and applauds Reagan
arming BIG TERROR,
I'm not sure you're the best judge of right & wrong.
You may think bombing abortion clinics is reprehensible,
but not mink farms, laboratories
and other places where animals are used by
humanity. [Just for the record bombing either
of the above is reprehensible in my book.]
What?
You think freedom of speech only applies when
views articulated line up closely to yours or are at least
not offensive, but any time views are offensive
to you are expressed, it is "hate speech" and should be illegal.
You'd have to provide an example before I could
answer that.
I don't think I've ever called for Rush/Hannity
types to be taken off the air,
but I've called them lying sons of bitches and
I have published 622 issues of examples.
Just for the record again, I defend anyone's
right to express all views, even if I do not agree with them.
The views may be wrong, incorrect or outright
lies, but you can express them. Be sure there are those
who will expose them.
OK.
As for liberal voices in the media (I doubt
you are still reading, but just in case), lets list a few:
Walter Cronkite, -
possible, but has been off TV for what, 15 years?
Sam Donaldson, -
Sam is a Monica-gossiping whore - hardly a Clinton supporter.
Juan Williams, -
sometimes on NPR, but he's Murdoch's boy on Fox News.
Michael Kinsley, - I'll
give you that halfway, but he's been off TV for 3-4 years.
Peter Jennings, -
Crazy talk
Jim Hightower, - possibly
right, but I've never heard him speak, so does he qualify?
Dan Rather,
- Crazy Talk, but I understand his daughter is a Demo
Tom Brokaw, - Crazy
Talk,
Ellen Ratner, -
Don't know the name, so does she qualify?
Larry King, -
I'd say he was at one time, but like most "liberal commentators," he sold
his soul so he
could do non-stop Monica slurs for three years, so he's hardly a Clinton
supporter
If I remember the original piece that got you to write, I asked
"Who would defend Clinton the way those I listed defend Republicans
to the death?"
Please offer an example of anyone on your list who defended Clinton
during impeachment.
As far as non news media go, lets list a few
there too:
Woody Harrelson, Ted Danson, Meryl Streep,
George Takei, Alec Baldwin, Danny Glover, Barbara Striesand.
You might have something there, but they don't have daily, hate-filled
shows that run 24/7 like Rush, Hannity,
Chris Matthews, Bill O'Reilly, Brit Hume, Tony Snow, John Mclaughlin,
Bob Novak, Fred Barnes etc etc etc
I am gratified to hear some of the above, remarking
that Bush is doing a good job.
As far as shrinking numbers of liberal voices
in the media, good,
it is finally time that the media mirrored
America more.
Mirrored America?
Who do you think won the last three popular votes in national elections?
I admit, you're only half crazy, and you've been polite, but why would
you think
America is conservative when the GOP can't win a national popular vote?
Conservative talk show hosts prove this beyond
a shadow of a doubt.
If not, they would not be as popular and they
certainly would not have thrived.
Liberals are boring
We would never spend nine years looking into a Republican's sex life.
We have never fabricated non-existent "scandals" like Lucy in the chocolate
factory.
If Clinton was 1/100th the criminal your side claimed he was,
why was impeachment about sex?
Why wasn't impeachment about "arming China," or "Filegate," or "Whitewater"
or Travelgate?"
You see?
You're stuck.
There were no crimes - your side had to fabricate "alleged"
crimes so you could get Clinton
under oath and ask him about his sex life. It was ALWAYS about
sex, and nothing more.
As far as doing a rebuttal for Clinton, the
reason no one
(did bart cop? If yes, I would be interested
in reading it.)
It's in the back issues. I think I successfully rebutted every "scandal"
your guys invented.
The American people agree with me, too. Otherwise public opinion would
have allowed
for the removal of this most popular president.
My prediction for this is one of the following:
1. I just read it [if so, here is my
OPINION: it was pathetic.]
2. It will say something to this effect
or at least a partial combination of the following:
a. it was all
about sex [wrong answer, it is about perjury, a felony]
b. He is doing such
a great job, his personal life is irrelevant [when he takes advantage
of a young girl at the office and then lies under oath, it is relevant.].
c. everyone does
it, so its okay [everyone smokes, drives drunk, but that is hardly okay].)
did one is this: THEY WOULD NOT HAVE
HAD A LEG TO STAND ON! He committed perjury
and partisanship was the only thing that saved
his bacon. His White house was for sale at the end,
and many people (not too many poor in this
group) purchased pardons from him.
1. I don't follow what you meant to say...
2. a. Of course it was about sex and nothing more.
If you disagree, please
explain Clinton's non-sex "crimes."
b. I agree, he did a great job - America thinks
so, too.
What do you mean "young
girl?"
Jenna Bush is four years
younger than Monica and your side says she's old enough
to break the law and have
her own mind because she's old enough to go to war.
c. This is true, everybody does it, including Gingrich,
Hyde, Burton, Livingston, Barr,
(Whoops, Barr didn't have
sex - he murdered his unborn daughter. Sorry, ...my mistake)
There was no perjury. Perjury requires a substantive lie. Lying about
a blow job isn't substantive.
Remember when Mark Furhman lied about using the word "nigger" in a
MURDER trial?
He wasn't arrested for that crime because it wasn't relevant.
Now I doubt that Bartcop has read all the way
to the bottom of this missive, but if I am wrong,
I salute your endurance. And this will
make you cringe probably: God Bless You!
No, Sir, but your lack of logic makes me cringe a little.
Arming a terrorist nation while guaranteeing America you're not is
a bigger crime
than anything Clinton did with Monica and the voters know it - too
bad you can't see it.
Besides stealing those weapons from America's arsenal and selling them
to Islamic Jihad to fund
an illegal war, Reagan and Bush committed actual perjury because those
were substantive crimes .
Yet you are so morally outraged that Bill Clinton lied about sex so his wife wouldn't find out.
Tell me, what year did you graduate from Rush's E.I.B. University?