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 Volume 622 - Silence is Golden

 October 23, 2001

 Suspicions Swirl Around Sources of Anthrax
 Officials Speculate About Links Between Anthrax, Terrorist Attacks

 Click  Here

 After much back and forth about what to tell the American public, the "authorities" are now confirming
 that the Anthrax sent in the mail was "weapons grade."  This would explain how postal workers
 might have become exposed if even a small amount of the anthrax leaked from an envelope.

From: markf5@hotmail.com

Subject: Gennifer Flowers

Gennifer Flowers (had intercourse with) the Big Dog

Why would you deny that?

Mark, why do you think it's true?

Carville said Clinton said she blew him once in a bar, hardly a "12-year affair."
I heard GF tell Gordon Liddy that Clinton's Air Force One was "normal,"
yet Paula Jones made well-paid-for claims of "distinguishing characteristics."
That means, obviously, at least one of them was lying, maybe both.

Why YOU would act as tho you had the facts is puzzling to me.

Besides, the whole point (that's why I underlined President) is that, at best,
she screwed an Arkansas Governor, not a great president.

 Did this man predict September 11th?

 Click  Here

  The 35-year-old American claims to be a lieutenant in a U.S. Navy intelligence unit
  - a spy who says he knew in advance about the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

  In his affidavit, he says he tried to warn Canadian intelligence about
  possible terrorist attacks on New York and the Pentagon, along with
  targets in Ottawa and Toronto, but was written off as a petty criminal.

From: jjsocrates@yahoo.com

Subject: WTC Syndrome


Here's my simple analogy for the war between doves and hawks.

A terrible crime is committed where a young child is raped and murdered in a small town.  The town is in a
rage and demands justice.  Police bring in a suspect who fit the description and arrest him, bringing the
immediate reaction of the townspeople to hang him and to get their justice.  This suspect is a former
criminal and has been convicted of rape ten years ago and was currently on parole.

Only one problem...some of the evidence is sketchy and the witnesses are unreliable.  In fact, it appears
that based on the case thats been made, this suspect is not guilty and did not commit the crime.
You're on the jury.  What do you do?  Do you send an innocent man to jail???

Jeff, allow me to pull a Kobioshi Maru and change the test question:
(A sequestered jury wouldn't be privy to the facts we have.)

If that suspect called on every child molester in the world to come to my town and rape and murder
every child because God commanded it, then, sure, I'd have no problem securing the noose myself.

As far as the question you asked, since hundreds of millions of lives are not at stake,
I'd probably err on the side of the Constitution and vote not guilty.

From: jjtest@ismi.net

Subject: re: I'm still with you 100 percent (shhhhh)

Stop writing to yourself!
It's UGLY!
It's uncalled for!

This "web-sturbation" is below you...unnecessary... I mean... I still like you!

There MUST be more of us... somewhere... ;.)

ha ha
A shot of Chinaco for the compliment.
That was written by an attorney who has at least 100 IQ points on me.
Yes, I was flattered as hell to get that endorsement.

If I could write intelligently like that, doncha think I'd do it more often?
Can you see me reading, nuch less quoting a NATO Charter?
Unless it has pictures of Superman or Batman I can't read anything for very long.

...and if I had the line, "If Trent Lott can do it, so can I, and with far less hair spray,"
I would've used it looong before now :)

Whoo Hoo!
I'm having a lot better day than yesterday.

 From:  matt@corsi.com

 Subject: Tequila Talk

Sweet Heat is this Mexican restaurant on Haight the serves way too healthy organic Mexican food.
However, besides having the HOTTEST waitresses in the city, they also have a specialty tequila
that has lured my friends and I go all the way across town simply to imbibe in it, many a time.
    They take a bottle of Herradurra Silver and put in 2 habenero peppers chopped
into just big enough pieces that they wont come out when they pour.
Then they screw the top bag on and let it stew for about 3 weeks.
        After that: Good God. It is the most beautiful hurt I have ever had.
We used to go over there for a couple of shots a piece because it was somewhat expensive.
But now we all pony up once a month, go down there, grab a corner booth and polish off a bottle.
It's hot, but not too hot because the alcohol makes the air you breath in right after cooler.
It's amazing.   I recommend you give it a whirl, but use decent tequila,
otherwise it's like putting diesel in a Ferrari.


Matt, thanks for that.
I'll have to give that a try.

...and don't worry, all I have is decent tequila :)

These bastards stole their power from the victims of the Us v.
Them years, wrecking all things virtuous and true.
The undermining social democratic downhill slide into abysmal
Lost lamb off the precipice into the trickle down runoff pool.

They hypnotized the summer, Nineteen seventy-nine.
Marched into the capital brooding duplicitous, wicked and able, media-ready,
Heartless, and labeled. Super U.S. citizen, super achiever, mega ultra power dosing. Relax.
Defense, defense, defense, defense. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ignoreland. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ignoreland. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

The information nation took their clues from all the sound-bite gluttons.
Nineteen eighty, eighty-four, eighty-eight, ninety-two too, too.
How to be what you can be, jump jam junking your energies.
How to walk in dignity with throw-up on your shoes

They amplified the autumn, nineteen seventy-nine.
Calculate the capital, up the republic my skinny ass.
TV tells a million lies. The paper's terrified to report
Anything that isn't handed on a presidential spoon,
I'm just profoundly frustrated by all this. So, fuck you, man. (Fuck 'em)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ignoreland. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ignoreland.
If they weren't there we would have created them. Maybe, it's true,
But I'm resentful all the same. Someone's got to take the blame.
I know that this is vitriol. No solution, spleen-venting,
But I feel better having screamed. Don't you?

They desecrated winter, nineteen seventy-nine. Capital collateral.
Brooding duplicitous, wicked and able, media-ready, Heartless, and labeled.
Super U.S. citizen, super achiever, mega ultra power dosing.  Relax.
Defense, defense, defense, defense. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ignoreland. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ignoreland.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ignoreland. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

From: geekypsycho@yahoo.com

Subject: Re: what would Clinton have done with bin Laden?

One thing he would have done differently than Bush
is show us the damn evidence before bombing.

Well, sure, that'd be easy for Clinton.
He doesn't have to hide the role his Evil Crime Family played
in creating the son of a bitch in the first place.


 "I'm famous for having an affair with President Clinton."
     -- Gennifer Flowers (R-Whore) on Weakest Link last night.

 Gennifer, you're a whore and a liar.
 For certain, you never got anywhere near President Clinton,
 but a little lying always makes the story sound a little better, doesn't it?

 I had a dream...

 I had the rowdiest nightmare last night.
 I dreamed I was less than 24 hours away from a lethal injection.
 I was on the phone, frantic, trying to get help.
 Maybe it was a flashback to my Mexican Jail story, I dunno.

 Making things worse, I was in Louisiana.
 The good news is I know a high-dollar lawyer in Louisiana.
 The bad news is his name ...is Scary Perry.

 If you were to read Volume 149 - Drop the Chalupa you'd understand.

 He might be a great lawyer, he's just so scary.
 Christian knows Scary Perry.
 She spent a lifetime with him one early evening...

 Maybe God is punishing me for not being a hawk.

From: yoob@yourass.com

Subject: NOT an attack

Bart, I'm not attacking you, I just want to make a point on something you said:

>There was a time in the late-70's and early-80's where all you could hear on the radio was Foreigner,
>Christopher Cross, Journey, Rod Stewart, Hall and Oates and Billy Joel>

First of all you forgot the Bee-Gees.
And second of all, while what you said is very true--those artists WERE all over the radio in the late 70s
--you must remember that they were on the radio because they were the POPULAR acts of the day.

All of those groups--even the Bee Gees--were at least a little bit good, if not very good (depending on
your own musical tastes.) At the very least, all of them wrote at least SOME of their own songs and
played at least SOME of their own instruments. So they were, by definition, MUSICIANS.

Unlike musical acts these days...when you'd make that SAME STATEMENT, only replacing
"Foreigner, Christopher Cross, Journey, Rod Stewart, Hall and Oates and Billy Joel" with
"Britany Spears, NSYNC, Backstreet Boys, Jennifer Lopez, Christina Aguilera, and Destiny's Child."

Do you see my point?
Things have gotten worse...MUCH worse.

Hey, thanks for that.
You knew that subject header would get my attention :)

I get your point, but in the 70's, acts like Zeppelin and The Who and Pink Floyd were
selling out stadiums 60K people at a time, when groups like Journey and Foreigner couldn't.

When the music was new and vital, corporate America dismissed it.
When it became "classic rock," long after the great groups had disbanded,
the corporate whores decided it was worth listening to.

...and a special poke in the eye to Rolling Whore Stone.

I remember when Zeppelin's Physical Graffitti (with Kashmir, Time of Dying, Ten Years Gone, Custard Pie,
one of the best albums ever) came out, Rolling Stone slammed it fifteen ways to Sunday, which is their right.



...but when Zeppelin's next album Presence came out, Rolling Stone slammed it by whining
"There's no Kashmir on this album," the sons of bitches.

For Rolling Stone, it was always about the money and not the music.

 I wonder if he's ever worked with Ann Coulter?

 Vic the Racist

 He says he's sick and tired of all the anthrax talk.
 "It's constant, every newspaper, ever TV show, every news magazine.
   The press is terrible, a bunch of whores," he says.

 I reminded him it has only been three weeks, and that he gleefully applauded
 the whore press as they obsessed over Bill Clinton's zipper for nine years.

 He said I was an idiot liberal and didn't make my point.

From: geekypsycho@yahoo.com

Subject: limbaugh-style logical leap

You were given the fact "the concert with Michael Jackson was not televised."  From that, you went directly
to "he forced it to be not televised for fear of being booed."  That's Limbaugh-style idiocy.  Not to mention
how the person not on national TV is MORE egotistical than the people who are, as a direct result of that fact.

I think that was in the form of a question.
Why keep a fund-raiser be kept hidden from the masses?
Doesn't that defeat the purpose?

If I heard right, it raised $2MIL, while the first televised concert raise $150MIL,
making me wonder if the concert was to help the people or to be Michael's return vehicle.
Have you heard of any plans to televise it?

Also, it WAS Michael's concert - he was the closing act.
Plus, it was titled "What more can I give?"
So why do that show where no cameras are allowed?

The concert is over.
Be sure to show us the news report saying he was booed.

I'm trying to let your shit slide.  Just don't be quite so blatant.
Still love your politics, and the doves will come back eventually.
No other page with truth on it is as funny as yours.

 Evil Evildoers Of Evil
 How to feel calmly patriotic and yet not the slightest bit reassured by Bush & Co.
  by Mark Morford, SF Gate Columnist

 Click  Here

 This much is true: It really is possible to love your country and value your freedoms and still believe
 the government is full of fools and prevaricators and BS artists and Dick Cheney. Really.

Seriously, is there a difference between the GOP and The Taliban?

From: sdunaway@surry.net

Subject: You probably already knew this, but...

On October 23, 1983, a truck bomb killed 241 Marines in Beirut, four days after Red-Ink Reagan
declared he was doing everything in his power to keep them safe. Two days later, Ronnie invades
Grenada to prop up his sagging approval rating, and calls it "our finest hour".

"Wag the dog", indeed.

Keep hammering,

Shawn, yes, but Reagan kept his goddamn coat on in the Oval Office while causing
those Marines to die so that makes him a great president and a foreign policy expert.

 So, how is Hillary doing?

"She's being very careful not to grandstand or draw attention to herself,"
 In fact, Clinton has used virtually every post-September 11 speech to draw attention
 to the plight of New Yorkers while not playing the larger national role her GOP foes expected.
 But don't dismiss her chances–or interest–in 2004, says results-for-sale pollster John Zogby.
 Noting her 59 percent approval rating, he says she is building a home base first.
 "I would not count her out of 2004," says Zogby.
   -- Today's Zogby newsletter

One more day on this dove/WTC syndrome controversy
 ...and then I think I'm ready to retire it before somebody gets hurt.

 Click  Here

From: prazeghi@earthlink.net

Subject: Bush in China

Did you see the photo-op with Bush in his red satin polka-dot jacket?
Ha ha...he looked just like Zippy the Pinhead.
All he needs is a little bow in his hair.
Waiting to see what Wizard of Whimsey does with it.


ha ha

I caught him in his "Blue for boys" suit.

I'l bet The Wizard makes him pay for that...

 Authority Versus Anarchy
   by Diane Harvey

 Click  Here

From: cokenica@stny.rr.com



Maybe George paid out more for his team but you can't buy a World Series.
Boy will be boys and they play to win no matter who it is. It just so happens that the Yankees play harder.


Excuse me?
Steinbrenner won with a Red Sox pitcher.
How can you say the Yankees play harder?

Take away Clemens's 20 victories and the Yankees would've ended up
in fourth place watching the playoffs with their families in their living rooms.

Of course, ...I'm not one to argue.

From:  A_Pitts@bigfoot.com

Subject: Why we will lose to the Repubs

Dear Bartcop,
   I've watched the Dove debate for weeks now, hoping someone would come to their senses and just stop.
We get weaker with every E-mail that cuts the pie lower. The repubs recognize that to win they have to put
aside their differences and defeat their enemy. We are composed of people who would rather be right than
victorious, so we alienate each other with insults and give them an easy victory again.
     Here's my opinion and I don't give a shit if you respond or not.
Bartcop's rhetoric after 911 was over-heated with talk of glassing countries and other threats of violence.
The doves saw this as helping the enemy (Bush not bin Laden) and after giving Bartcop time to cool off
attempted to point this out. BC lashed out against them and things went downhill from there.
Neither side is 100% right.
     It's a shame that your egos are giving Bush the victory he wants. If you were my children,
I would send you to your rooms but you are adults, so start acting like adults.
Doves, leave BC alone while he heals.
He'll come to his senses one day.
Bartcop, let this thing go.
You only hurt your own cause.

ha ha

I agree with A Pitts - both sides need to give up something:.
1. Doves should back off and give me time to come to my senses.
2. And I need to work on coming to my senses.

That's a compromise I can live with.

AP, you're OK.

From: (withheld)

Subject: I'm still with you 100 percent (shhhhh)

hey bc,

Be brave.  Don't falter.  Most real-world Dems are right where you are, I think.

I've got enough elitist-intelligencia credentials to auction the excess on eBay, and retire to an island of my purchase,
but I've got to say, wow, I'm certainly seeing a lot of ... um ... misguided stuff being flung in your direction.

You sure you have the right web page?
I haven't seen a letter like this in a while...

Yeah, I heard bin Laden.
Sounded awfully close to a confession to me. (The saucy tease!)
Yep, I heard the Taliban, too.  Such thoughtful hosts for their very special guest.

I heard exactly what you did, bc.
Neither of us has lost our hearing.

And last time I checked, we were attacked on our own soil, by folks who deliberately
targeted civilians.  We lost almost 3 times the people who were killed at Pearl Harbor
- which wasn't even our mainland, and they were military casualties to boot... but I digress.

Call me naive, but I have some small doubt that our forces deliberately target civilians.
Even if Smirk is our pResident.

Call me naive, but I think the Afgani people, especially the women, will be in better shape
after we disappear the Taliban and engage in a little of that vile, old-time nation building.

Call me naive, but didn't we do right by the Muslims in Kosovo?

Oh, and while the recently sprung up Scalia School of Left-Wing Strict Constructionists
are wailing "but this can't be a *war* because the definition of *war* needs a *nation*,
I offer for your perusal:

NATO Charter
Article 5

The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America
shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed
attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised
by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by
taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary,
including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.
Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported
to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken
the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security

That's Article 5 of the NATO charter that was invoked for the first time in NATO's history the day after  the WTC.
Invoked unanimously.   Maybe some folks haven't read it.  If they did I'm sure minds would change ...right?

(Another legal-type hint:  just because the US takes military action against bin Laden
 and the Taliban does not preclude legal action later.  The two remedies aren't mutually exclusive.)

What about servicemen and women coming home in body bags?
We can't stand the carnage?
I seem to remember that we've lost 6,000 when we were attacked.
I can't even begin to figure out how that fact gets discounted.
We also have a volunteer army. ( The pResident hasn't reinstituted the draft
- now there would be an irony, but I'm not going there.)

I don't know what gets me angrier: the mischaracterization of your stand or the jaw-dropping
combination of ignorance and denial that seems to have overrun a portion of leftyland.

Do you think that we're seeing the obverse of the rabid right's Clinton-is-Satan-therefore-we-must-oppose-every-action-he-takes?

Good point.
I refuse to say Smirk, by definition, must be wrong 100 percent of the time.
That's what the ditto-monkeys did to Clinton - even when he agreed with them on something.

I have no difficulty at all distinguishing between my opinion of the pResident,
his fitness for the tasks at hand, and my desire to see this country take the action it is taking.
If Trent Lott can do it, so can I, and with far less hair spray.

ha ha

Here's another question no one is addressing: What would Clinton have done?
Guess what?  He'd have done exactly the same thing we're doing now.

Another great point.
Clinton would've bombed the shit out of them while Rush screamed "He's wagging the dog!!!!!"
and the House and Senate would be going thru Hillary's underwear drawers with erections.

All the discussion of what Clinton would have done as opposed to what
Bush was doing disappeared after September 11.  Why?

Do I wish the Boy King would stop going on about "evil-doers?'"  You betcha!
Am I concerned that under Dubya's gentle guidance, this whole thing could escalate
into an endless GOP crusade (and yes, I mean that word).  You betcha!
But am I also worried that the misguided doves will probably insure
Republican rule for the next 16 years? You betcha even more!

And on the domestic terror front ... do I think the Administration's ineptitude is going to cause those
approval numbers to start to plummet very soon? You betcha! And if the libs were smart (insert sigh here);
they'd be all over our lack of domestic preparedness (for which we can thank a bunch of Republican congresses)
and the House's hostility towards federalizing airport security rather than spending all of their energy proving
to themselves that the anthrax stuff is the work of homegrown right-wingnuts.

What's with the libs?
They were furious over the theft of the election, but attack us on our own soil, deliberately target and kill
our civilians,  and it's  .... oh, gee, what can I do so you won't be mad at me and do it again?
And to think, I've never voted (R) in my life.


ps.  the Who rocked, and I'm not even big on the Who  :-)
pps.  I just threw that in to show I'm not with you 201 percent  :-)

Withheld, ...thanks for that, but I thought The Who rocked, too.
You should write more often.
This page has no balance.

Conason-Lyons Book to be a Movie

Full  Story

LOS ANGELES (The Hollywood Reporter) --- The presidency of William Jefferson
Clinton may be history, but his longtime supporters, producer Harry Thomason and his wife,
producer Linda Bloodworth-Thomason, are preparing a final defense on his behalf.

Along with filmmaker Adam Friedman, the Thomasons are set to begin filming a theatrical documentary based
on Joe Conason and Gene Lyons' nonfiction book "The Hunting of the President: The Ten-Year Campaign
to Destroy Bill and Hillary Clinton," which documents efforts to discredit the couple from the time of Bill Clinton's governorship in Arkansas through the 1998 presidential impeachment trial. Thomason, Bloodworth-Thomason
and Friedman will produce the project, with Friedman and Thomason sharing directing duties.

Regent Entertainment recently struck a deal for worldwide distribution rights to the project, titled "The Hunting of the President," marking the company's first foray into the documentary genre. Its budget is estimated at $2 million-$3 million,
and it is financed through a combination of private equity and presales. "Hunting" is scheduled to start production during
the next few weeks, with Regent planning to introduce it at MIFED next week.

"This is not a film about Republicans and Democrats," Thomason said. "Rather, it's an insightful story that looks at
the fringe elements of our society and their effect on the modern political process. It's also a story of how these fringe
elements influenced our national news media regarding the events and circumstances of Bill Clinton's administration."

The Thomasons' friendship with the Clintons dates back to Bill Clinton's governership in Arkansas, where the couples
were introduced by Harry Thomason's brother. At key moments during Clinton's campaigns and presidency,
the Thomasons were on hand to advise him on his dealings with the media.

Bloodworth-Thomason directed "The Man From Hope," a 14-minute biographical documentary that introduced
Clinton at the 1992 Democratic National Convention in New York, and Thomason managed much of the stagecraft surrounding Clinton's triumphal appearances at the 1996 Democratic National Convention in Chicago,
for which Bloodworth-Thomason produced another short biopic.

The Thomasons' proximity to the Clintons meant that they shared in some of the political and media criticism directed
at the political couple. Thomason drew flak during the so-called Travelgate scandal during Clinton's first term in office.
A frequent visitor to the White House, Thomason advised Clinton shortly before the notorious media appearance
in which Clinton said of Monica Lewinsky, "I did not have sexual relations with that woman." Friedman declined to
name people whom the filmmakers have already approached to appear in the docu or any other public figures
they hope to interview, saying only that there will be many "surprises."    (cough)

"We don't want to do a movie that is anti-Republican," Friedman said. "What we are anti- is that the media was
anti-journalism. (This project) is relevant to how we view news. If a distorted viewpoint is repeated long enough,
it becomes news. During the whole time when people were obsessing on Clinton's personal life, there were
obviously  bigger fish to fry. It's amazing what became news and what didn't."

Friedman said the project will reflect the newsgathering process and examine the media swirl surrounding the Clinton scandals.

"The important thrust of this is that the media was shirking its responsibility in the quest to fill airtime,"
Colichman said. "That's what I feel this is really about: the media, integrity and how the media was
used to tell this very long-term story throughout the Clinton presidency."

In their book, Conason, a national correspondent for the New York Observer, and Lyons, a political columnist for the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, (both of whom appear regularly here at  bartcop.com ) examine orchestrated efforts to
politically undermine the Clintons that have dogged the couple throughout their public life.
"The better the president and the country did, the more his adversaries appeared willing to endorse
almost anything short of assassination to do him in,"  the authors wrote.

"I'm elated that Gene Lyons and I have this extraordinary opportunity to tell this story in the compelling format of the
feature film and that Regent Entertainment has signed on for distribution," Conason said. "We believe that in many ways,
this examination of the failure of our political culture over the past decade is more important than ever today."

Added Lyons: "With the making of 'The Hunting of the President' into a film, we have the opportunity to tell the full story,
which the mainstream media, by and large, failed to tell. It now becomes a three-dimensional cinematic account."


Amazingly, we at  bartcop.com  have not yet been asked to contribute to this important historic record,
but we would be positive to any inquiries sent our way to, ...say, ...help convert the book to a screenplay???

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