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Election 2004
Perkel's Blog
Dare's Disinfo
The Forum
The Reader
Richard L Fricker
Daily Howler
Demo U-Ground
Eric Alterman
Church of Reality
Gene Lyons
Joe Conason
Demo Primary Watch
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Talking Points Memo
Mike Malloy
Molly Ivins
Project 60
Smirking Chimp
Vegas Report
Vote Bush Out

  In today's Treehouse...
Sick, wounded US troops held in squalor
America owes Rush a debt of gratitude?
CA votes for wrong candidates 
Bush Wows 'em in Manila
Prescott Bush a Nazi?  Who knew?
Nethercut: dying soldiers not that important
Help speed Rush's retirement 
Dennis Miller gives up masturbation
Two more lost in Iraq - damn that Bush


Quote of the Day

"Over the past few months I have been slimed, smeared,
  and pilloried primarily by leftists who do not approve
  of my commentary. I am not whining, I'm reporting." 
   --  Bill O'Reilly (R-Spinner)   Attribution

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 "I feel bad about each and every man and woman who lost their lives in Iraq,
   but you have to look at the good we've accomplished, too. The young Iraqi
   children that are now going to school, for example."
    -- Semi-Colon Powell, to Bob Schieffer (R-BFEE Payroll) on Face the Nation

 But Colin, if limitary recruiters said, "Joiun up and give your life for the Iraqi schoolkids,"
 do you think you'd have an army that would invade to steal that oil?

 Sick, wounded U.S. troops held in squalor- outrage

  Click  Here

 FORT STEWART, Ga. - Hundreds of sick and wounded U.S. soldiers including many who served in the 
 Iraq war are languishing in hot cement barracks here while they wait -- sometimes for months -- to see doctors.

 The National Guard and Army Reserve soldiers' living conditions are so substandard, and the medical care 
 so poor, that many of them believe the Army is trying push them out with reduced benefits for their ailments. 
 One document shown to UPI states that no more doctor appointments are available from Oct. 14 through
 Nov. 11 -- which is Veterans Day.

 Just another outrage from Bush that the media will blame on Clinton.
 These soldiers deserve the best medical treatment in America, but Bush just doesn't care.
 All he can think about is stealing oil, raising money and cutting taxes for the super-rich.

 America owes Rush a debt of gratitude 

   Click  Here

  The entire nation owes radio broadcaster Rush a debt of gratitude, Libertarians say, because his 
 ordeal has exposed every drug warrior in America as a rank hypocrite.

 "One thing we don't hear from American politicians very often is silence," said Joe Seehusen, 
 Libertarian Party executive director. "By refusing to criticize Rush, every drug warrior has just 
 been exposed as a shameless, despicable hypocrite. And that's good news, because the next 
 time they do speak up, there'll be no reason for anyone to listen."

 The revelation that Limbaugh had become addicted to painkillers --  drugs he is accused of 
 procuring illegally from his housekeeper  -- has caused a media sensation ever since the 
 star's shocking, on-air confession last week.

 Why are all the drug warriors suddenly so silent?

 Voters miss the mark, hit 'fringe'
    by Lewis Griswold - The Fresno Bee reacts to story in  bartcop.com

  Click  Here  for the superior, Bee version 

  Click  Here  for the inferior, forever version 

 Candidate Randall Sprague got 995 votes in Tulare County, 34% of his statewide total. 
 His name was next to Tom McClintock's.

 Jerome Kunzman got 694 votes here, 32% of his statewide total. 
 His name was next to Cruz Bustamante's.

 Ronald Palmieri got 546 votes here, 26% of his statewide total. He's openly gay, and his platform was 
"Vote no on the recall -- Don't vote for me." His name was next to Arnold Schwarzenegger's.

 The "Bartcop.com" Web site alleges that Tulare County's computer voting system might have been hacked 
 to "skim Bustamante votes to 'fringe' candidates."

 Bush wows 'em in Manila 


  Click  Here

 U.S. officials privately said demonstrators on or near the motorcade route posed the biggest problem. 
 Scott McClellan (R-ForkedTongue) said crowds had to be moved back to address safety concerns. 

 Bush's motorcade raced to the speech at high speed without incident, passing thousands of well-wishers. 
 People, at times, stood within ten feet of Bush's fast-moving armored limousine. 

 Most appeared friendly. But security forces kept the about 4,000 university students and activists who had 
 marched to the Congress building, carrying streamers saying "Ban Bush" and "Bush No. 1 terrorist," out of 
 view behind tall army trucks.   (Just like in America. Does Bush even know he's hated by the whole world?)

 The president gave no sign he noticed them or the demonstrators, mentioning only those 
 "who lined the streets today for their warm and gracious welcome." 

 Did they distract Bush, perhaps with a small hand puppet or a whistle?
 Or did Unka Dick order him blindfolded so he wouldn't crap his pants?
 I'll bet Condi held his hand and whispered to him, "It'll be OK, George."


"The administration strongly opposes efforts to convert any portion of this assistance
  to a loan mechanism. Doing so would slow efforts to stabilize the region and to relieve 
  pressure on our troops, raise questions about our commitment to building a democratic 
  and self-governing Iraq, and impair our ability to encourage other nations to provide 
  badly needed assistance without saddling Iraq with additional unsustainable debt." 
   --White House statement, Senate Defies Bush On Iraq Assistance

  Translation: A bank robber doesn't ask for a loan.

 Bush Ancestor's Bank Seized by Gov't

  Click  Here

 President Bush's grandfather was a director of a bank seized by the federal government because of its ties 
 to a German industrialist who helped bankroll Adolf Hitler's rise to power, government documents show.

 Translation: Prescott Bush handled some of Hirtler's financing.

 Both Harrimans and Bush were partners in the New York investment firm of Brown Brothers, Harriman 
 and Co., which handled the financial transactions of the bank as well as other financial dealings with 
 several other companies linked to Bank voor Handel that were confiscated by the U.S. government 
 during World War II.

  Union Banking was seized by the government in October 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act.

 No charges were brought against Union Banking's American directors. The federal government was 
 too busy trying to fight the war, said Donald Goldstein, a professor of public and international affairs 
 at the University of Pittsburgh.

 Translation: The B.F.E.E. founder paid bribes to make their charges go away.

 bartcop.com  readers knew this years ago.
 After all this time, the press decides to print some truth?
 What's up with that?


"We will pay any price and bear any burden to advance the cause of human liberty. 
  And after the shock and awe of major combat, the price and burden of human hope 
  shifted from the battlefield to the town hall and the town market. And that hope 
  cannot come in the form of a promissory note. It's our fight and now it's our job." 
     -- Tom DeLay, saying the B.F.E.E. can spend your money better than you can  Attribution

 "We know what we're doing in Iraq... I mean Iran,... No I mean Iraq..."

 From: Tim Welsh

 Subject: shitbar anyone? 

 Your wrote:

> "If that lying Nazi whore had kept his racism in check a few more weeks and months......blah blah blah"......... 
>  (He could have accomplish much more) 

 And if you'd keep your ATHIEIST opinions to yourself, you could ALSO accomplish SO much more. 
 I can't even refer friends to your site because I refuse to associate myself with that anti-God crap of yours.

 Let others think what we will on matters that don't concern you in what you are trying to do. 
 No one CARES what you think about GOD. Our problem is BUSH. 
 You're peddling hershey bars dipped in SHIT ! ! ! ! ! ! ! 

 Tim Welsh

 Tim, do you pray with that filthy mouth?
 Do your Christian friends know you use that kind of language?

 What harm would come to them if they read someone's opinion posted on the internet?
 Is their faith in God so fragile that reading  bartcop.com  would weaken it?
 Would reading  bartcop .com  cause them to doubt their faith?

 9-11 was caused by religion. Same for the problems in the Middle East.
 Waco was caused by religion.and that begat the OKC bombing.
 Religion causes people to ignore, discriminate, asasault and even murder gay people.
 And you - for all I know, you might be an OK guy, but your religion has caused you 
 to introduce yourself like some kind of  foul-mouthed lout. Is that what religion does to people?

 Until maybe a year ago, I thought racism was America's biggest problem,
 but I now think religion is the biggest obstacle that need to be overcome.
 Religion is always the problem.


"It's just frustrating. It's not traditional warfare, You've got no known enemy. No military target. 
  I think the people are ungrateful. They still attack us. We bring freedom and they still try to kill us." 
     -- one of our boys in Iraq   Attribution

 Nethercutt hails Iraq's recovery
 "It is a better and more important story than losing a couple of soldiers every day."

  Click  Here

 Rep. George Nethercutt said yesterday that Iraq's reconstruction is going better than is 
 portrayed by the news media, citing his recent four-day trip to the country.

"The story of what we've done in the postwar period is remarkable," Nethercutt, R-Wash. said.
"It is a better and more important story than losing a couple of soldiers every day."

 He added that he did not want any more soldiers to be killed.

 Well sure, but Nethercutt doesn't weant those deaths reported.
 That might make Bush looks like an inept, blood-thirsty murderer.

 This guy ran against Tom Foley as an "outsider" who'd only serve a term or two.
 He was elected in 1994, and he's going to stay, "until the people's work is finished,"
 which I guess will be until reporters decide to write about that young person he's "dating."

Marty's Entertainment Page
The animal rescue site
Dennis Kucinich & Ed Asner on the supermarket worker's picket line in LA 
Extra scripts ordered for 'Joan of Arcadia,' 'Whoopi,' Hope & Faith,' and more 
Ruben Blades in Lima
Snoop Dogg, the new Huggy Bear
Eminem & the rapping judge
Guenther Grass & gypsies
Anne Murray hit a hole in one
Linkin Park behaved in Kuala Lumpur
Tim McCarver is broadcastings 'Mr. October'
'Meadow Soprano' is the new Heidi Fleiss
Some Thai black magic
And a bunch of links

 Did Diebold Patch Election? 

  Click  Here

 Diebold Election Systems has had a tumultuous year, and it doesn't look like it's getting any better. 
 Last January the electronic voting machine maker faced public embarrassment when voting activists
 revealed the company's insecure FTP server was making its  software source code available for everyone to see. 

 Then researchers and auditors who examined code for the company's touch-screen voting system 
 released two separate reports stating that the software was full of serious security flaws. 

 Now a former worker in Diebold's Georgia warehouse says the company installed patches on its 
 machines before the state's 2002 gubernatorial election that were never certified by independent 
 testing authorities or cleared with Georgia election officials. 

 If the charges are true, Diebold could be in violation of federal and state election-certification rules.


 "If you want to read damning things about Bill Clinton and you don't trust me, read George 
 (Judas Maximus) Stephanopoulos' memoir about the constant lies and the shamelessness. 
 Stephanopoulos was an operative and a hard-nosed guy, but he came out of that with a real 
 bad taste in his mouth. He actually said in 1998 that Bill Clinton never should have been elected 
 president, because he wasn't up to it in his person, in his character. That's kind of a stunning thing." 
      --Rich Lowry, still riding Clinton's cock three years after he retired  Attribution

"I screw my friends over,
   Will you hire me?"

 From: Icarus

 Subject: f* marc perkel antisemite mother-effer* (rephrased for the kids) 

 This was among the most polite of the e-mails I received about Marc's short column.
 What is it about the Israeli-Palestinian problem that makes people lose all control?
 Nothing makes a sane person's cheese fall off their cracker faster than Israel.

 Perkel can speak for himself without any help but me, but since the hate was pointed my way,
 I'd like to point out a few things - if you hate-mongers can plug your piehole for just 30 seconds:

 First, Marc asked a question.
 If the nation of Israel can't survive the asking of questions, let's find out sooner rather than later.

 Second, his scorn was extra-clearly aimed at the current, right-wing Israeli government.
 (Can you figure out what "extra-clearly" means?   Apparently not.)

 If YOU asked a question about Bush trying to take over the world,  should I scream 
"mother-effer anti-American" at you?  I can hear you - "But that's different!"

 No, because when it comes to American problems, people don't lose their minds.
 They only lose their sanity when Israel is involved.

 I don't know how much clearer Perkel could've been. he wrote:
 "...it's time the world woke up to the fact that the right wing governments of Israel, 
   the United States, and England are in fact a threat to the peace and prosperity of the planet."

 It seems to me you have to be pro-war and pro-Bush to dislike that statement. 
 I realize nothing I can say will ever change your hatred, but try to remember that
 this fight will be going on for dozens of centuries after all of us are dead.

 NOTHING will ever stop this Palestinian/Jewish fight, so why can't you learn to control yourself?

God talks to me, like that Joan of Arkansas

 Is the Queen Harpy on the air in your city?

 From what I can tell - there is no more Dr. Laura in Phoenix.  This is a welcome relief. 
 Keep hammerin' Bart.

 Laura was kicked off the air here in Houston 2-3 years ago.  She has been replaced by 
 right wing nuts who fall all over themselves telling us how great the President-select is. 
 I read your page at night to steel myself against the onslaught of right-wing propaganda. 

 I'm in Chico California. I have to listen to right wing radio all day at my job.
 Laura was bumped her out of the afternoon slot for Sean Hannity instead.
 I don't miss her one bit.

 Albany, NY, a mid-50s media market (about 1M in population), recently lost the "Dr." 
 but, alas, picked up the other Laura (Ingraham) on WROW, the leading talk radio station here.

 Hey Bart.  Love the new look.  Dr. Laura was yanked in Las Cruces, NM shortly after the mass exodus 
 of advertisers from her show. They replaced her with G. Gordon Liddy (R-Shoot for the head) for awhile, 
 but he was soon replaced with Sean Hannity (R-Satan's son).  Anyway, keep up the good work. 
 Will (A reader from way back.)

 Bart, Fayettville Ark. am 103 dropped her, she is now carried on one station in northwest Ark. 
 and that's Siloam Spring's, home of John (by god) Brown univ., and one of the only places where 
 the KKK meet's reguarly. Oh yow also half of the town is located in Okla., 
 hammer down, 

 She's not in Seattle
 Mike G

 Laura the unloved is not on in Toledo or Detroit, or she has been moved to a time slot I never listen.

 Laura was kicked off the air here in Houston 2-3 years ago

 I live near Chicago - she used to be on right before the Pigboy - but she's been gone a long time. 
 At least, she's not on that station anymore, nor any others I've happened on

 Maybe I should've asked in what markets show's still on the air...

 Clear Channel (BFEE) pressures stations to keep Limbaugh

  Click  Here

 Amid national chatter about Rush Limbaugh's addiction to prescription drugs, (not true) WBAL 
 radio found itself at the center of an industry storm this week after it pulled his show from its usual
 time slot and then flip-flopped on that decision. Some listeners applauded the move, and many balked.
 WBAL's initial decision to pull the program and use local hosts - the first such move among 600 radio 
 affiliates nationwide - raised alarms in an industry worried about financial fallout, a decline in ratings and
 the show's survival.

 So, instead of relying on the "market forces" Rush champions, they're using threats and scare tactics
 to force stations around America to keep an unpopular drug addict's Nazi hate show on the airwaves.

 Oh, when will they Stop the Hypocrisy?

 Subject: senility 

 Your crazy love for that s.o.b. clinton and facination with stupid TV shows 
 and little gurl singers hardly becomes a man in a world with our problems.


 Tom, it's how I blow off steam.
 If not for life's pleasant distractions, I might end up with nothing else to do
 but send snippy e-mails to strangers on the internet.

 Two Commandments
   by George Carlin

  Click  Here

 Too good for an excerpt - it's short.

 I'd sure like to play that on BartCop radio (for those who can't click)
 If you have it as an MP3, please send it to   bartcop@bartcop.com
 If you have it on CD or tape, I'd pay for a copy.

 Subject: PayPal: Initial Inquiry: Case ID - PP-024-xxx-xx

 Dear Bart Cop,

 Recently, PayPal received a claim from a user regarding merchandise not received or received 
 significantly not-as-described. The details of this transaction are as follows:

 Complaint Details

 Transaction Date: Oct. 16, 2003
 Transaction Amount: -$10.00 USD
 Case Number: PP-024-903-236
 Buyer's Name: AR
 Buyer's Email: xxxx2001@hotmail.com
 Buyer Note: I subscribed to a website but did not receive access to the site. 
                    I would like to be refunded immediately. Thanks.

 Check it out.
 He subscribed on the 17th, and sent his complaint to PayPal the 18th.

 Subject: Malaysia's History 

 In Malaysia, in India and Pakistan, all through Asia, in fact, the British Empire encouraged ethnic hatred,
 including teaching it in schools ala those fundie schools in Saudi Arabia. That's a British legacy the
 US has to deal with now. In Malaysia, the Chinese were pitted against the native Malaysians. It became a
 cliche that the Chinese had all the good jobs, all the wealth, that "they" controlled everything. Sort of
 like the way Central Europeans saw Jewish land speculators, banking families and degree-holders, but
 not the impoverished push-cart peddlars and ghetto-dwellers. Also similar to the way the women's
 movement could see mostly-male CEOs and office-holders, but not mostly-male homeless people or
 crippled PTSDed veterans or work-related death and injury victims.

 At any rate, I suspect you get to be PM of Malaysia by not being too sympathetic to Chinese-Malaysians, and I
 can imagine that attitude of "they control everything" translates easily to anti-Semitism when you look at the world. 
 Marc should study up on this, I'd bet anything the Malaysian PM is an ignoramus about the MidEast on a par with Bush. 
 In various times and places the Chinese have had that "they run everything" reputation in many places, 
 as have the Ibos in Africa, and the Germans in Africa and South America.

 Marion Delgado

 Marion, thanks.
 Marc can be reached at marc@perkel.com

 Help Speed Rush's Retirement 
   saw it on Buzzflash.com

  Click  Here

 Call his advertisers -- particularly Mission Pharmacal, which makes the pain reliever Thera-gesic 
 (apparently not strong enough for Rush) -- and ask them whether they want their products 
 associated with a pill-popping racist:   Mission Pharmacal (800) 531-3333

 Please visit out sponsors

 Subject: Joan of Arcadia 

 It is a great show. 
 I have been telling my friends about it but none of my friends will listen. 
 I am agnostic, but I find the show, the acting, the writing etc to be impecible.
 Pearland, Texas

 Subject: Joan of Arcadia 

 Honestly, I really didn't think it was that good.  Too tidy. And kinda predictable.

 Robert S

 Predictable, really?
 You saw the brother and the boat thing coming?
 60 days for you, my friend - thanks!

 The Sacrifices We Make for Bush's War

Dennis Miller - Has Been 
"I'll start making sacrifices when Saddam is dancing around headless like a cross 
  between a Thankgiving turkey and Robespierre on his last day as a French Revolutionary. 
  ...and I plan to spend significantly less time masturbating to internet pornography."

  Saw it on   http://genslab.com/

 Perkel deserves to be thrown on the trashheap of time just like his heroes Stalin and Hitler.
 You must agree with him if you printed it. 

 Jack S

 This level of hatred is insane. This is why that war will never end.
 For all you know, Perkel is a left-leaning Jew who thinks Sharon is a mad man
 the way I'm a left-leaning American who's ultra-certain Bush is a madman.

 Using Jack's logic, Stalin and Hitler are my heroes, too. 
 Jack, this puts you and Bush on the same team - you happy with that?

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 Elizabeth Smart gives interview to Perky

  Click  Here

 Elizabeth Smart says she's "still pretty much the same person" after her kidnapping, and tells Katie Couric 
 in her first TV interview that the experience has made her more compassionate toward the homeless. 

 Couric interviewed Smart at her family's ranch near Salt Lake City for the October 24 broadcast. 


  With Ashcroft (R-Religious Insane) it's all about race.

  Pat Robertson (white) can threaten to blow up the State Department and that's OK,
  but this guy has dark skin so he's rotting in jail without a trial or a call to his lawyer?
  Ashcroft swore to uphold the law, but his religion makes hik break that oath.
  He should be removed from office for abuse of power.

 I just noticed something on this sticker sent in by TVBrain

  Look at the price he's paying for gas!!!  $2.05?
  Last time I bought gas it was like $1.39, and it was $1.29 the tank before that.

  How is this possible?
  What could explain this drastic differ,...   what?

  Oh, that's right.

  Oklahoma voted for Bush and Cully-fornia voted for the winner - Al Gore.
  The Cully-fornia rape continues...

 Subject: guyjamesshow.com 

 Thanks for tipping me to The Guy James Show.com... 
 I'm in Western PA and don't know when I can tune in @1660 AM but the info on the site is A-1.
 We can't wish Bush away so I'm glad for the efforts of James, Bartcop and all others who help us 
 to understand the situation.


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 A conservative's review of Al Franken's book 

  Click  Here

 The other day on talk radio, I heard a guy tell an incredulous Lars Larson that he wouldn't believe 
 Rush Limbaugh was a drug addict involved in a drug ring even if Limbaugh himself admitted it.
 If you're that guy, don't bother reading Franken's book. You will really just drive yourself even more crazy. 

 The leaders we conservatives have trusted have taken advantage of our trust to line the pockets of
 the wealthy and powerful, and it's time we rose up and drove out these greedy liars. They've hijacked 
 and distorted our belief system for their own gain, and in doing so are destroying our credibility. 

 I'm still a decent, honest, hard-working, patriotic, true-blue conservative. But Rush Limbaugh, 
 Bill O'Reilly, Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity and the rest of you lying liars -- I'm through with you! 

 Bush's American soldier body count in Iraq
 Last issue it was  times 336  ....this issue it's  times 338
                                                                                                          They got two more kills since last issue.

    I want that oil - no matter how many lives it costs!

 Soon, we'll be at 400.
 How long before we hit 600?  ...and then 1000?

 Total deaths since President Giggles said, "Bring 'em On":  131  133

 From:  http://lunaville.org/warcasualties/Summary.aspx

 Plus, at least  1838  1871  we're about to break 2,000 wounded for Bush's oil hunt. 
 and many of them are missing arms, legs and eyes.

 From:  http://www.antiwar.com/ewens/casualties.html
 How much more are we willing to tolerate?

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 I found some mail under a newspaper.
 Sorry about that.

 Stickers are going right out to Santa Monica, Williamsburg, Dover, Oakland, 
 Tallahassee, Berkley (MI), La Porte, Toronto and our good friends in New Zealand.

 Plus, someone wrote a note that said:

 Enclosed is a check for CD of radio shows plus $8.  May I get a sticker? 
 ...but I don't know which envelope it goes in.   It might be from 118th Street.

 If this is you, send me an e-mail at bartcop@bartcop.com and put your name in the title.
 I'll get your CD right out to you.


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