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Weekend-Monday  Oct 27-29, 2007  Vol 2063 - Bitch TV

Quote of the Day

"In strength elections, nice guys finish last."
    -- Roger Simon,  Link


In Today's Tequila Treehouse...
Arrow Fearing Fear Itself
Arrow Religio-crazy vote HOT
Arrow Why S.D. ain't no N.O. HOT
Arrow Mukasey is pro-crime HOT
Arrow Hillary Goes For The Kill 
Arrow Graham may oppose 
Arrow Pot lady kills herself 
Arrow Rumsfeld flees France 
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"Bush didn't have the power to spy on Americans...operate secret prisons...suspend due process
...torture...hide the conduct of the government from the public. It's not like anybody gave Bush any
of these powers -- he took them, as a brain-dead Congress just stood there and watched."
   --Jack Cafferty, on Dubya's grab for power,    Link

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Fearing Fear Itself
  by Paul Krugman


In America's darkest hour, Franklin Delano Roosevelt urged the nation not to succumb
to "nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror." But that was then.

Today, many of the men who hope to be the next president - including all of the candidates
with a significant chance of receiving the Republican nomination - have made unreasoning,
unjustified terror the centerpiece of their campaigns.

Consider, for a moment, the implications of the fact that Rudy Giuliani is taking foreign policy
advice from Norman Podhoretz, who wants us to start bombing Iran "as soon as it is logistically possible."

Mr. Podhoretz, the editor of Commentary and a founding neoconservative, tells us that Iran is the
"main center of the Islamofascist ideology against which we have been fighting since 9/11."
The Islamofascists, he tells us, are well on their way toward creating a world "shaped by their will and
tailored to their wishes." Indeed, "Already, some observers are warning that by the end of the 21st
century the whole of Europe will be transformed into a place to which they give the name Eurabia."

Do I have to point out that none of this makes a bit of sense?

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Pro-Torture Mukasey also Supports Warrantless Wiretapping
 Will the Democrats confirm a law-breaker in advance?


President Bush's choice for attorney general told senators Friday the Constitution does not prevent
the president from wiretapping suspected terrorists without a court order.

But without oversight, they'll be tapping Hillary's phones and the DNC.

Michael Mukasey said the president cannot use his executive power to get around the Constitution and laws
prohibiting torture, but they're allowed to define torture, so you're giving him the green light to do it.
But wiretapping suspected terrorists' without warrants is not precluded, he said.

"Foreign intelligence gathering is a field in which the executive branch is regulated but not pre-empted by Congress,"
Mukasey wrote in response to questions by Patrick Leahy, (D-RubberStamp).

Mukasey's answers focused on queries about executive power and did not address what Leahy says is
the chief obstacle to his confirmation: Mukasey's refusal to answer torture questions.

This poor bastard is stuck.
He knows we torture and so does every member of the committee.
They're asking him to prejure himself.

Of course he will, but he's trying not to.

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Religio-crazy vote up for grabs
 They used to vote with the GOP


Experts watching the 2008 presidential election say they see ferment in a segment of the population
that has long been more likely to vote Republican: religious Americans.

Since the 1980s, white Americans who attend regular worship services and describe themselves as
religious have been much more likely to say in polls that they are Republican than Democrat or independent.
Even among minority groups that vote heavily Democratic -- Jews, blacks, Latinos -- the more religious
people are, the more likely they are to vote Republican.

But early data suggest that some of the religious vote is up for grabs next year

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Will Elizabitch Dole return the tainted money she raised?

Subject: Hillary (Reprise)

Dear Bart,

Glad to have provided a little more grist for your Hillary mill.
(I especially liked your "three yellow flags" retort.)

But we're going to have to agree to disagree about
the desirability (not the inevitability) of HC becoming Prez.

Otherwise, keep on hammerin', ya old coot!

Dave, you're looking at it all wrong.

We both want the same thing.
You and I are shoulder-to-shoulder in this fight.

You think Patton should lead the invasion of Europe, but I like Ike.
We're two dudes out to screw Hitler, and you can consider me another Tommy Lee Jones,
when I say that I don't care which general gets to Berlin first.

I was kidding about getting Sec Defense.

I think all Democrats need to recognize that Hitler is the enemy, not Eisenhower, not Patton.
It helps the Germans when our side visciously and unfairly attacks Eisenhower, our top general.
We can't afford to lose our current fight - I say we go with our best.

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"If the choice boils down to Obama vs. Clinton, all we've seen from Obama is a campaign organized
around an airy platitude: kumbaya. Clinton hasn't been overly specific on policy, either, but during the
debates this summer we got to see how she'd handle the Swift Boats next year -- with competence and
a spine of steel. As much as I'm emotionally drawn to Obama, his performances in the debates and on
the stump have been less than stellar. It's all too easy to imagine him getting his ass kicked by the GOP
and losing in a landslide to a thuggish dictator like Giuliani. Clinton may never reach the 52% she'd need
to win the election -- but so far, she's the only one who looks like she can give as good as she gets.
And whoever wins the Democratic nomination will face a hell of attacks the likes we've never seen."
   --- Some dude

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Graham may oppose Mukasey


A gay Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee said Sunday he might consider opposing
Michael Mukasey's nomination for attorney general if the former judge says waterboarding is not torture.

Sen. Lindsey Graham, (R-PassesForStraight), joined two top Senate Democrats in urging Mukasey to
disclose his views. Mukasey so far has refused to say explicitly what his position is on the lawfulness of
the interrogation technique, which simulates drowning.

"I am urging him that he needs to come forward. If he does not believe that waterboarding is illegal,
then that would really put doubts in my own mind because I don't think you have to have a lot of
knowledge about the law to understand this technique violates" the Geneva Convention and other statutes, Graham said.

"I think it would serve the attorney general nominee well to embrace that concept. He's talked around it," Graham added.

Last week, the committee chairman, Sen. Patrick Leahy, (D-RubberStamp), and Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin
said their votes would hinge on whether Mukasey states his answer on the record.

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Beowulf (left) meets Bruce Yurgil in San Fran

Subject: Feingold: Reprise

OK, Bart,

I'll give you your point.   Feingold might have been able to stop the war. He  didn't, obviously.
On the other hand, he did more than any other person in power - Executive, Congress, Senate, Judicial or Armed Forces.

I don't mean to, or need to, pick on Feingold, but can you name one thing he did to prevent this war?

Still, the question remains unanswered - Who you gonna trust more?
I'll put him up against any of the current presidential candidates.
I  judge my candidate by his actions.
Words are just words, as you might  note by observing W.
Even "she whom you believe will be elected"  can't match Feingold's actions.

But again, what are Feingold's actions?
Did he write a hot column over at

Please be aware, his votes don't just effect Wisconsin - they effect  you too.
Just as the votes of Sens. Coburn and Inhofe effect us in  the Dairy State.

Why isn't he running for president?
I don't know. I'm not in his inner circle.
Why don't you ask him?
 John Z

He's not running because he knows he'd lose.

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Der Fuhrer - World Series Hero?

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Since the Red Sox swept Colorado in four games,
FOX loses about 12 hours of Top Ten programming.

ha ha

Hillary Goes For The Kill


The decision of Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign to send 100 or more new staffers into Iowa
demonstrates that she and her aides have determined to their own satisfaction that she can cripple
Barack Obama in the first-in-the-nation caucus.

Iowa is the only state where current surveys show Obama to be within shooting distance of Clinton.
In late August, Clinton took a small lead of 5.2 percent in a poll of likely Democratic caucus goers.
That lead, the smallest Clinton holds in any early primary or caucus state, has held up through seven
of the eight most recent polls, increasing the willingness of the Clinton team to gamble on a new offensive.

The Obama campaign has already described the January 3 Iowa contest as a must-win event.
Clinton's burst of hiring is a declaration that she intends to go for a knockout punch.

She has picked up so much momentum, I thinking even the Dems can't stop her now.

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Subject: Bill Maher

Hey, you're wrong about Bill Maher.

> "What do they want Bill Maher to do?" you said about the 9/11 Truth hecklers.

When Bill Maher calls 9/11 Truthers insane and mentally ill, he deserves it.
He had it coming.

OK, but what do they want Bill Maher to do?
I'm not a big 9-11 Truther because I can't explain myself on that subject.

If I pick up the Bldg 7 gauntlet and someone asks me to explain myself, what do I say?
That "some scientists" have suspicions?

What can I do, besides list some non-famous people with suspicions and mention some web sites?
What can Bill Maher do, with a live TV show with screaming guests?

And threatening to beat up a woman isn't ballsy, it's fascist.

Ole from Norway

When you see a man physically ejected from a studio for screaming during the filming of a TV show,
what does the sex of the next screamer have to do with the decision to throw the disruptors out?

But really, it all gets down to - What do they want from Bill Maher?

He didn't sit on the Whitewash Commission, he couldn't have known about 9-11 in advance,
he hasn't been lying to help Bush cover something up - so why protest at his TV show?
When it comes to 9-11 and Bldg 7, Bill Maher's got nothing to do with anything.

Why don't these protesters picket Lee Hamilton's house?

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  is confirmation that the GOP is dying to run against Hillary Clinton.
   -- Jonah "Bad seed" Goldberg, lying again,   Link if the GOP fears running against Obama and Edwards...


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Why San Diego isn't New Orleans
 by Greg Palast


What color is your disaster?  It makes a difference.  A life and death difference.

Population of San Diego fire evacuation zone:  500,000
Population of the New Orleans flood evacuation zone:  500,000

White folk as a % of evacuees, San Diego: 66%
Black folk as % of evacuees, New Orleans:  67%

Size counts, too.  Size of your wallet, that is:

Evacuees in San Diego, in poverty:  9%
Evacuees in New Orleans, in poverty:  27%

The numbers would be even uglier, though more revealing, if I included evacuees of the celebrity fire in Malibu.

The President didn't do a photo-strafing of the scene from 1700 feet this time.  Instead, we have the photo op
of George, feet on the ground, hanging with Arnold the Action Man.  (However, I'm informed that the President
was a bit disappointed that he didn't get to wear one of those neat fireman hats like Rudi G got at Ground Zero.)

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Subject: Wore my WPE to Springsteen

Bart, I got it the day after you shipped it .

I did wear it to the show ..The Garden was rocking! I've been to  hundreds of hockey games
and concerts at Madison Square Garden and I have never seen the place so alive!

Jon Stewert was at the show...the next day he described it perfectly
"You like joy? You into Joy?...then go see this man "

The Boss gives a brand new meaning to 58 years old ...he puts more soul and energy into one song
than most of the modern day posers put  into an entire show ... he ripped Bush a new asshole too.
Amazing  show ( my 45th Springsteen show and one of the best ever )

I had 5 people ask me where I got my WPE shirt. One woman even wrote down the url to your site.
Great shirt...nice quality. I was wearing a blazer over the shirt so I'm sure I would have gotten even more  responses.

Thanks again for the fast delivery.

Go see this man into joy, Bart?
Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuce !

Keep swinging the hammer.

Note: Mario paid extra to have the shirt overnited.

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"If the Khmer Rouge does it, it's torture. If the United States does it, it's not. 
This man cannot be allowed to be president of the United States. He believes that the 
United States is above morals and the president of the United States is above the law. 
He is a tyrant to the depths of his being."  
    -- Andrew Sullivan, on Rudy   Link

 Andrew, is there anybody you don't hate?

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Subject: Hillary and War

While we are asking WHY some Senator did not procedurally 'block' the 2002 Iran war
authorization resolution, why not tell us why Hillary did not do so?

Because she's going to be president and they'd scream "soft on terror" if she voted against it.
No other Democrat can say that.

And why is she now on record as having, once again, given implicit authority to W
and his mad advisors to conduct war operations against Iran?
 C. Davie

Now, now, if you're going to make accusations you need to be sure of your facts.
She did nothing of the sort.

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Subject: Barry

Bart, Just to let you know we evacuees from the Lake Arrowhead fire, (Grass Fire) 
were allowed to go home today. Hundreds of homes were lost but the Mountain looks good. 

No smoke, no ashes & no smoke damage in most homes. 
I live about a mile from the burn area. 
It feels so good to grab our animals & go home again. 

Rio, I'm glad you survived that.

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Rumsfeld flees France fearing arrest


Donald Rumsfeld fled France today fearing arrest over charges of "ordering and authorizing" torture of
detainees at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, unconfirmed reports coming from Paris suggest.

US embassy officials whisked Rumsfeld away yesterday from a breakfast meeting in Paris organized by
the Foreign Policy magazine after human rights groups filed a criminal complaint against the man who
spearheaded President George W. Bush's "war on terror" for six years.

Under international law, authorities in France are obliged to open an investigation when a complaint
is made while the alleged torturer is on French soil.

According to activists in France, who greeted Rumsfeld shouting "murderer" and "war criminal" at the
breakfast meeting venue, US embassy officials remained tight-lipped about the former defense
secretary's whereabouts citing "security reasons".

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9) Muslim Student Association
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Subject: when did the media turn whore?

Here is the bad news... 

The only bit of glory the "news media" can take home is finally turning against the horrible Vietnam War 
some time in the early 70s, and really going after Nixon once the Watergate scandal broke. But believe me, 
they have mostly been behind the news, never really ahead of it. And they almost inevitably steer an easy 
course with the mind of the privileged few in their backs. 

That is why America has become a feudal society, Bart.

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Subject: Feingold and "Holds"

Bartcop, you wrote:

> "Why did [Feingold], personally, allow the Patriot Act to become law?"


> "That's why Dodd's action was dangerous - he proved they could've stopped
>   Bush all along, which takes a lot of shine off Feingold's armor, wouldn't you agree?"

It's not really true that one Senator can stop any bill he wants.
This is what the Senate website says about "holds":

"Senators can even place a "hold" on a measure or nomination, although this practice is
NOT RECOGNIZED IN SENATE RULES. "Holds" are requests by Senators to
THEIR PARTY'S FLOOR LEADER to object on their behalf to any request to consider
a matter, at least until they have been consulted. The majority leader will usually not even
request consent to consider a measure if there is a hold on it."

The all caps emphasis is mine.  Notice that this is not a rule, so Senators have to
depend  on the "floor leader" for support.  This seems not likely for a Democrat.

Also, when the Democrats were not in control of the Senate, it probably wouldn't have worked
even with "floor leader" support.  I think, in the long run, "holds" only work when there is enough
party support so that a filibuster will work.  23 votes is not enough.  It takes 41.


I don't have the brains to argue the legalities of the issue, I wish I did. I'm just saying
if they can block us whenever they want, why do we get excuses when it's our turn?

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 Iraq pumped 3.5M  barrels daily before Bush invaded
 and then they got their 2003 Halliburton upgrade

Bush is stealing $220,000,000 every day.

No wonder they were so eager to start a war,

It's the biggest theft in Earth's history.

Exxon made $10B profit in 90 days
 $100M a day - all profit - because Bush started a fake war


Some people celebrate Bush's bloody oil war...

Some don't.
x 3,837....3,839

We lost another 2 soldiers since last issue.

We've had 3,839 soldiers killed
and who's responsible?


How much did BIG OIL make yesterday?
Exxon makes $108M - every day

Bush can live with that,
because Iraq's oil wells have no meters
and his front company is moving to Dubai.

 $100M a day,
$200M a day,
$300M a day - where's that money going?

Bush has killed more Americans than Osama.

Medical marijuana advocate kills herself


Robin  Prosser, a Montana who struggled for 25 years to live with the pain of an immunosuppressive
disorder, tried years ago to kill herself. Last week, she tried again. This time, she succeeded.

After her earlier attempt failed, Prosser wound up in even more trouble after investigating police
found marijuana in her home. She used the marijuana to help cope with pain.

That marijuana charge was eventually dropped in an agreement with the city of Missoula, and Prosser
had reason to rejoice in 2004 when Montanans passed a law allowing medical use of the drug.

She was a high-profile campaigner for the Montana Medical Marijuana Act, and like others,
she was dismayed when the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that drug agents could still arrest sick people
using marijuana, even in states that legalized its use.

In late March, DEA agents seized less than a half ounce of marijuana sent to her...

The fucking DEA - that's all they have to worry about?
A sick old lady with a half-ounce of pot?

If they've got nothing better to do with their time, let's re-assign them to the FBI
and let them hunt for terrorists instead of some sick old lady.

This idiotic country wants to please the Invisible Cloud Being so much,
we've turned into vengeful bastards declaring war on anybody trying to ease their pain.

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