Subject: 'scumbag recruiter'
Hey Bart, Sparky here. This "SBennett" person
Some of what he says is true. I was a recruiter
and I sure ain't no "scumbag".
Along with being a recruiter i'm also a combat
Recruiters follow strict guidelines and they
don't have to lie.
I'm going to play devil's advocate, because SB
You say, "they don't
have to lie," but it's legal
for them to lie, and they ARE on a quota,
and they ARE stop lossing thousands of homesick
bastards proving they ARE under
more pressure than at any time in my lifetime
to get people to sign up.
Would you deny that the army has relaxed their
standards to an embarrassing degree?
They're taking felons and druggies and borderline
mental patients and then denying them
benefits when they come home wounded - so
"they don't have to lie" is suspect..
I'm not trying to attack you - it sounds like
you played by the rules.
But if they're desperate AND it's legal
to lie, human nature says they're lying.
They're salesmen. If you stiff a customer is that
customer going to tell his friends?
No. I've never known a recruiter like SB describes
and I've known quite a few.
If you were a recruiter, say, under President
Clinton, I'm sure things were very different.
Clinton never sent a man into battle who didn't
come home alive, so it follows that there
was little or no lying back in the good old nineties.
There was no incentive to lie.
>"If they don't meet their quotas they get
to go to their branch
> of the service's equivalent of the
LIE, You get less than a superior rating on your
evaluation report which makes it harder
at promotion time. Then you call your branch
on DSN, find out where the openings are
and usually go where you want (unless you're
But again, it would depend on when. Once things
started going extra bad in Iraq,
the situation surely changed. I think desperate
men will take desperate measures.
>"Keep in mind if you do walk out you are responsible
for your transportation back home".
LIE, If you're the only shavetail that recruiter
is handling that day he'll take your butt home
and drop you off on mom and dad's doorstep. If
you're one of multiples he's not going to
miracle you home. He'll sit you in the waiting
room until everyone is done and THEN take you
home. If you wanna leave on your own well...
This "SBennett" sounds like he watched "BlackHawk
Down" a hundred times and decided he
wanted to be a GreenBeret DELTA-force SEaL and
realized that don't gaurantee 3 hots and a cot.
That sounds like army talk :)
Here's the truth, Bart. Recruiters of all
branches are dedicated hardworking people
doing a shitty job getting paid even shittier
trying to provide for their families.
Any that stray outside the guidelines are dealt
with according to the UCMJ.
Bart, I had many soldiers i put in come home on
leave and were happy with how I dealt with them.
Giddy about the discipline and responsibility
new in their lives.
I made heartbreakers and lifetakers out of em
I think it's possible we're all talking about the same thing.
I think the recruiters always have some pressure to bring in
new troops but once the war
turned bad and the troops couldn't come home as scheduled, that proves
a great deficit
existed so pressure HAD to increase, and with tired men dying, those
increased to levels we can't even guess about..
If you were a recruiter in 2005, 06, 07 or 08,
my guess is your perspective would be similar to SBennett's.
Thanks for the note.
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