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Thurs-Friday December 23-24, 2004 .....................................................Marc
Perkel on Mike Malloy on AAR Wed,
"The Fox News Channel and its commentators stand
in the way of the secular agenda.
Demonizing us sends a message to others who
may challenge the secular cabal.
Do it and we will slime you badly. Somewhere,
Jesus is weeping."
--Bill O'Reilly, on criticism
he received for lying about the Democrats hating Christmas Attribution
Why would Jesus weep for the lying war profiteers?
Why does Bush think we can get away with this?
Though they represent only part of the record
that lies in government files, the documents show
that the abuse of prisoners was already occurring
at Guantanamo in 2002 and continued in Iraq
even after the outcry over the Abu Ghraib photographs.
FBI agents reported in internal e-mails
and memos about systematic abuses by military interrogators
at the base in Cuba, including beatings,
chokings, prolonged sleep deprivation and humiliations
such as being wrapped in an Israeli flag.
"On a couple of occasions I entered interview rooms to
find a detainee chained hand and foot in
a fetal position to the floor, with no chair, food
or water," an unidentified FBI agent wrote on
Aug. 2, 2004. "Most times they had urinated or
defecated on themselves, and had been left there
for 18 to 24 hours or more." Two defense intelligence
officials reported seeing prisoners severely
beaten in Baghdad by members of a special operations
unit, Task Force 6-26, in June. When they
protested they were threatened and pictures they
took were confiscated."
Picture Shown on Giant Billboard
A portrait of Bush that uses monkeys to form
his image that was banished from a New York
art show last week amid charges of censorship was
put on a giant billboard in Manhattan on Tuesday.
"Bush Monkeys," a small acrylic on canvas by Chris Savido,
created the stir last week at the
Chelsea Market public space, leading the market's
managers to close down the 60-piece show.
Animal Magazine said anonymous donors had paid
for the picture to be posted on a giant digital billboard
near the Holland Tunnel, used by 400,000 commuters
traveling between Manhattan and New Jersey.
The original picture will be auctioned on eBay,
with part of the proceeds donated to parents of U.S. soldiers
wishing to supply their sons and daughters with
body armor in Iraq .
to criticize my monkey ass..."
"Certainty is the narcotic of the right wing."
--Howard Gordon, pastor of First Presbyterian
Subject: Kerry and the Constitution
what do you think the chances are that john kerry
uses his constitutional right to challenge
the results of the election when the electoral
college numbers come before the senate?
remember, all we need is one congressman and one
senator to send the whole thing
back to ohio for a recount. what an
amazing scene that would be!
but, as you know too, he won't do it.
andrew in baltimore
Wesley Clark would've stayed and fought.
Wesley Clark wouldn't have rushed to surrender.
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"It is far, far easier to be on the right than in
the middle or on the left,
because everything is already determined for
--Rev. Randy Hyde, pastor of
Pulaski Heights Baptist Church, Attribution
Subject: Merry Christmas
Bart, you gotta remember that you live in beautiful
Not too many folks outside the Judeo-Christian,
(I don't know what that phrase means, but I heard
some anti-Christmas/ACLU dude say it once).
What I mean is, you're not around as diversified
a crowd as some of us.
As a frequently politically incorrect, Left-wing
Fundamentalist, I use "Happy Christmas" to people all the time.
Shades of England and a rejection of Santa Claus
(obese, alcoholic, pedophile) that causes people to think occasionally.
In any event, I've had probably a dozen people
get annoyed with me for doing so in a non-inclusive
holiday fashion this past month. Not that
But there are those that reject "Merry Christmas" and
the Christian holiday implied therein for their own secular
or religious or cultural reasons. It's
funny when they don't see how their rejection of my greeting is the truly
So in this instance, I sorta agree with Rush. I
think it's the first time.
Dave the Lawyer
Dave, you're wrong and Rush is wrong.
Christmas is the big holiday in December.
Saying "Merry Christmas" is the same as saying "Have
a nice day."
It's a phony issue the lugnuts thought up to distract
people from the economy and Iraq.
If you had the bad luck to run into a dozen wacko-liberals,
you don't have to surrender.
Geez, this is the same crowd who screamed "person-holecover" so
as not to offend the N.O.W.
Besides, if we cave in on this one, they'll just
demand more from us next week.
Rhetorical, tongue-in-cheek question:
Would America be better off without the 15% of
extremists on both ends?
Eve of Destruction
Now that the election's over, our leaders think
it's safe to experiment with a little candor.
President Bush has finally acknowledged that the
Iraqis can't hack it as far as securing their own country,
which means, of course, that America has no exit
strategy for its troops, who will soon number 150,000.
News organizations led with the story, even though
the president was only saying something that
everybody has known to be true for a year. The
White House's policy on Iraq has gone from a
total charade to a limited modified hangout."
Bart, in the debates, Kerry was not allowed to
ask questions directly to Bush.
Frank, Jim Baker and Vernon Jordon met over drinks to agree on the rules.
The second that Jordan said, "OK Jim, we agree
to ask no questions," Bush won.
Kerry agreed not to question Bush's record of failure and lost his biggest
weapon - the facts.
Bush's worst-record-of-all-time was off the table, because we all
know Bush's good-puppy
whore media will never confront Bush with evidence of crimes or
Had Kerry or anyone on his staff read bartcop.com they
would've known that months in advance.
I screamed that like a Smurf (till I was blue in the face) but they
didn't want to win.
I don't want money from the 2008 Demo campaign.
I don't want publicity from the 2008 Demo campaign.
I'm just tired of seeing the Dem campaign do worse than I could do.
They need to talk to me in 2008.
They need to assign some low-level, nobody intern to e-mail me once
a day with their plans,
the candidate's nutty monkey costume du jour and a copy of their
daily surrender speech so I
can e-mail back alternate plans and speeches that have a chance to connect
IQ-of-64 in 2008
Santa Dubya says, "Can't afford that. The super-rich
need more money..."
made a sucker's bet
by Gene Lyons
In making President Bush its "Person of the Year," Time
gushed that he had successfully
"reframed reality to match his design." Ponder that phrase.
A cynic might think it a backhanded
way of calling him a particularly accomplished
liar. Indeed, Bush prevailed in November largely
because many Americans simply cannot believe that
their president would deliberately mislead
them about matters of life and death. Consider,
however, Bush's doomsday pronouncements
about the impending bankruptcy of Social Security. They're
sheer fiction, contrived to conceal
this administration's own fiscal recklessness -
the combination of tax cuts for the wealthy and
runaway spending that has increased federal outlays
some 29 percent since his 2001inauguration.
After pledging during the 2000 campaign to set
aside $2.6 trillion of the projected surplus in a
Social Security "lockbox," Bush has, instead, produced
swelling deficits. Now he promises
strict "fiscal discipline." Do not hold your breath.
"Today, we had a rocket attack that took a lot
Any time of the year it's a time of sorrow and sadness
when we lose a loss of life."
Turns out it wasn't a rocket.
It was an evildoer in an invader's costume.
"Here's to all the Americans on both sides of this
year's unusually peppy fights over the
allowability of religious symbols on public
property. This annual battle, in which the ACLU
strives once more to make itself as popular
as the Grinch, is over the part of the First
Amendment that says the government cannot sponsor
religion. I always liked what
Ann Richards said when informed there were
demands that the large star on top of the
state capitol come down. "Oh, I'd hate to see
that happen," she drawled. 'This could be
the only chance we'll ever have to get three
wise men in that building.'"
Subject: Monday's debate
Bart, I am sorry that I don't have much time to
make my point that you
DID NOT win the debate with bigbillheywood (BBH). Still,
here is the way I saw it:
I didn't say I won - I said there were no punches
It was like a boxing match with dancing in the
ring and no punches being thrown.
I never could get BBH to take a position that I
(a) BBH pointed out rightly that the soldier class
has historically proven to be essentially a right wing entity.
His mistake was in acquiescing to your dubious
(or at least limitedly useful) equation that says "right wing = evil".
That too, is incorrect.
Since BBH either would not or could not take
a position, I tried to put words in his mouth
that he could deny or defend but he failed to take
the bait so I stopped the debate.
Because you attacked him on this fault. Had
BBH stuck to the more useful equation, "right wing = wrong" ,
he'd have won the arguement, since you both agree
that the "right" is wrong.
(b) Your point that I think "all soldiers are
heroes because they are willing to take a bullet for me" is just plain silly.
As BBH pointed out, d'you really think, the majority
of these gung-ho Marines care about your Commie-Pinko ass?
No. It ain't you they are protecting, Bart. Trust
me (a former Marine). When Bush tells them to kill you... You're gone
I say you're wrong.
As pointed out recently on the page, if Bush
wanted Ol' Bart dead, he could find someone to do the job.
But a "regular" soldier wouldn't fly to Tulsa to
murder an old guy with a modem. But if I was a 15 year-old
in the shadows of Fallujah holding something shiny
in my hand, THEN I understand a soldier killing some
"innocent" civilian because in that scenario, it's
a clear cut case of "him or me."
You and BBH seem to think (I guess, because
I can't ever get a straight answer) that EVERY soldier
is a right-wing, psochopath who loves to kill
children every chance he can - that's horseshit,
and it was
to be the basis for the debate.
A tip for you two:
Learn to avoid using "all" and "every" when making
a wild-ass claim.
"All soldiers are evil because they likely vote
GOP" is a losing argument.
He lost the debate before it started.
That's all the time I got. I love ya, Bart,
but I think you are a little too naive
about the military mind and how it works. You
should listen to BBH.
If either of you would hold your f-ing ground instead of dancing around
the ring, we could have that debate.
Saying things like, "You are a little too naive about
the military mind and how it works," allows you to accuse
of atrocities without actually making a claim that can be refuted and that's
why the debate failed.
I can't find any substance to attack when we argue. You fight with
wisps of smoke.
We've got the best books by the best authors.
Subject: Vietnam lessons
Bart, you wrote:
>What happened to the "lessons" we learned in Vietnam ?
>We spent 58,000 lives and then forgot the fucking lessons?
I knew America was being trained to forget the
lessons of Vietnam
when they started calling it the "Vietnam Syndrome".
Syndromes are something you're supposed to get
Lessons are something you're supposed to remember.
Cuts Won't Include Star Wars
by Joe Conason
In case anyone missed the news, the latest test
staged by the Defense Department's Missile Defense Agency
concluded in an embarrassing failure on Dec. 15.
The target rocket launched on schedule from Alaska, but the
interceptor rocket never left its pad in the Marshall
Islands for their planned rendezvous in space. The cause,
according to the Missile Defense Agency, was "an
unknown anomaly," which in plain English means that the
Pentagon, after spending roughly $100 billion over
the past two decades on this system, has no idea why it
still doesn't work.
According to newspaper reports, the test had been
postponed several times due to "bad weather," so
apparently we must hope that our enemies choose
a nice sunny day to attack. In fact, the interceptor hadn't
been tested for two years, because the previous
test in December 2002 was also a disastrous failure.
On that occasion, the "kill vehicle" didn't separate
from the booster rocket, missed the target by hundreds
of miles and finally incinerated in the earth's
Subject: Debate stipulations
Don't you have two stipulations for every debate?
1. Something about Bush, Sr. and
2. Something else.
I almost completely forgot what they were, could
you remind your loyal audience?
Yes, and I should stick to those.
The stips were:
1. You have to acknowledge that Bush pardoned
much of Reagan's caninet over Iran Contra.
We can argue about why or what
that means, but if an early debate with a "know it all,"
he called Clinton "a big crook," and
I asked to to contrast Clinton's "crimes" with the Bush
pardons and he assured me
I was a liar who was making all that up.
2. The second stip was you had to have a web page
saposor you, because these stalker types
would DEMAND a debate to "put
me in my place" and then not show up. Then they'd
write back a week later with
ano9ther fake address with the same demand - and not show up.
I figured if a page sponsored
them, we could humiliate the sponsor page when they chicken out
but most GOP types have no shame
so that's not fool proof, either.
Most pro-Bush web sites don't
even have a "Contact us" link.
They prefer to wallow in their
filthy ignorance to be set straight by someone like Ol' Bart.
Since no Bush baker would DARE meet me in a live chat room, sometimes
lower my standards just to keep in shape. Monday's debate was with
"As an evangelical Christian, I feel the most
important job I have been given is to be a witness
to non-believers. Much of this witnessing is
simply trying to live a Christ-like life so others will
see the character of Jesus through me. My ability
to be any kind of a witness, active or passive,
has been drastically harmed by the religious
right - specifically the Bush administration. By acting
as if they own the franchise on Christianity,
and then acting as un-Christlike as possible, many more
people are inclined to dismiss my beliefs out
of hand. Duh-bya is also giving Christians the image of
being morons. 'It's the stupid, stupid.'"
-- Matthew0724, Attribution
And a Merry Christmas to all, including people
who have white Christmas trees decorated entirely
with purple balls. Merry Christmas to the Red states
and the Blue states, to the R's and D's, and to
all the troops stationed in Afghanistan, including
the French troops there -- Mais oui, Christmas, y'all.
Merry Christmas to all the people who had to eat
bugs on reality shows this year and to all the professional
athletes who have not gotten into duke-outs. Merry
Christmas to the homeless and the people in the shelters,
and especially to those who are feeding the people
in the shelters. Season's Best to all the cops who collected
for Blue Santa this year, and a Tiny Tim Salute
to all the prisoners, including Martha Stewart. Her cell-wing
lost the prison's Christmas decorating contest
this year -- when it rains ..."
Rumsfeld Saddened by the
thought that anyone
could possibly have the
impression that he's not
the best Secretary of Defense
"In the aftermath of 9/11, the president told the
world you are either "with us or against us."
He then offered a far-reaching moral vision
for the Middle East with democracy as the core ingredient...
Three years later, the number of people "against
us" around the world has grown exponentially.
The popular view of the United States throughout
the Middle East and the broader Islamic world is
dark and hateful. In short, the administration's
faith-based, fact-free foreign policy has spawned
the antithesis of the Bush vision."
Bruce St. John, Attribution
Bush says a Pfizer pill that sells in Canada for $4 is not safe
but then Bush says that same Pfizer pill that sells in Canada for
is plenty safe when sold in the United States for $8 - why is that?
If Pfizer is selling unsafe drugs in Canada, shouldn't their CEOs be
And if those pills are the same, and Bush is just helping
Pfizer and Merck
fix prices to make more money, shouldn't Bush be impeached for racketeering?
would never cheat, lie or steal - we trust him!"
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why not focus that rage at the pink tutu Democrats who allow Bush to steal hundreds
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at Big Pharm?
Remember: Bush made it illegal to
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Subject: Democrats stand down
I was watching the Sunday news programs, and I
wanted to scream.
Democrats, as well as news commentators and of
course the Republicans,
sit around and talk about this war in Iraq as if
it were a legitimate enterprise.
Why does the phrase "Potemkin Village" come to
mind? It's simply mind-boggling.
It is, and always has been, a complete, unmitigated
disaster. I won't even re-hash the
whole WMD and 911 connection boondoggle. But even
beyond that, it's been a
mendacious deception from the very get-go. And,
our breathless, Bush-adoring
corporate media have been cheerleading the whole
disaster all along.
They should be ashamed of themselves.
Sadly, all the chickens are now coming home to
roost. I notice that over the last few days,
the media biggies are starting to act a bit apprehensive
about the whole thing. Even they might
slowly be coming to the realization that this mess
is about to explode in their faces, and they
realize how very foolish they are starting to look.
I never thought I would live to see the U.S.
start a war, but we did. Now, I fear that Bush
is going to end up making our military look bad,
by sticking them in a no-win situation. We have
a great military, but the situation they have been
placed in in Iraq is a horrible one.
How do you defeat an insurgency with tanks, jet
fighters and heavy armor? You can't.
We are heading for a train wreck, and it's so damn
But are any Democrats standing up, even now, in
December of 2004, to decry this insanity?
Of course not. It's pathetic.
Subject: BCR Show 62 feedback
Don't bet my $20 on a pair of nines.
I love you, because you make me laugh out loud.
I sent my husband out for Chinaco. After a year
of listening to the sound
of the cork coming out of your bottle was something
I wanted to share.
So now when you have your shot, I'm having mine.
(Yes, I realize the timing discrepancy)
Anyway, Bang that f-ing drum 'cause somebody needs
Cheers! and Merry Koreshmas to you and Mrs Bart,
Leigh Ann in Florida.
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Reveals Push for Broader War Powers
9-11 was Christmas & New Years Eve rolled into one for the
Just two weeks after 9-11, a secret memo to White
House counsel Alberto Gonzales' office
concluded that Bush had the power to deploy military
force "preemptively" against any terrorist
groups or countries that supported them - regardless
of whether they had any connection to 9-11.
The memo, written by Justice Department lawyer
John Yoo, argues that there are effectively "no limits"
on the president's authority to wage war - a sweeping
assertion of executive power that some
constitutional scholars say goes considerably beyond
any that had previously been articulated by the department."
Doesn't it seem almost supicious that the very week after the Scott
mini-series ends, the whore media/Justice Department (is there a difference
are now releasing their brand-new The Robert Blake Murder mini-series
It's like they can't do two trials at once, because the spectrum of
cable talk show whores can only
slime one trial at a time, so they held off Blake until they finally got
the noose around Peterson's neck.
Here at bartcop.com we see no reason to keep up with
the Blake trial because
the state has witnesses, gun ballistics, a murder scene, a cause of death
Sounds like they might be able to establish a link between the
defendant and the crime.
"With each Iraqi our military kills, more Iraqis
join the insurgency. The longer
our troops occupy Iraq, the better Iraqi insurgents
become at killing our troops.
In Iraq, violence is a great recruiter, and
time is a wise teacher. We are losing
in Iraq, and next year we will be losing more.
Iraq is our second Vietnam...
Our chances of winning in Iraq are the same
as they were in Vietnam: zero."
--Stewart Nusbaumer, Attribution
Since Iraq seems doomed to failure, if the Democrats were smart (should
I even finish this sentence?)
they'd always refer to Iraq as "Bush's war" because
if they don't, Bush will say the Democrats
forced him into this war and the networks and talk radio will ditto
that stupid lie to help their man.
Why are the Democrats so afraid to throw even a baby punch?
soldier body count in Iraq
You go to war with the Commander-in-Chief who abandoned you.
1304, 1306, 1321,
1324, Bush military victims so far
They killed 3 since
Men blown apart,
women made into widows,
children made into orphans,
parents burying their kids,
families torn apart,
all for oil greed...
Bush and his friends are getting rich off
That bothers me.
Subject: Molly Ivins - Iraq Reality
What does it matter what anyone says when no one
In the event of the slim possibility that someone
might be listening, most Flag-waving,
Chimp-supporting, slogan-spouting "patriots" consider
thinking for themselves, analyzing,
doing some research, the most arduous, strenuous
and painful work imaginable.
How many of your readers, especially those that
send Monkey Mail, would even be capable of
thinking through some of the obvious cause-and-effect,
really catastrophic things occurring on this planet?
Our troops? Who actually voted for the Shit-throwing
Chimp? And what about their parents?
What would you expect from people like these? That
paste on Band-aids featuring little purple hearts, wave flags
for all their worth, send their kids to be maimed
and die, and never had a rational or original thought in their lives? .
I can't begin to understand the thinking
or reasoning, or the absence of both,
clearly present among the majority of adults in
This is the complete, absolute and incontravertible "end
of the innocence", forever and ever.
And it's our own fault.
Elaine, I think you're saying it's our fault that we let the Democrats
let the Republicans
get away with whatever bloody, global atrocities they want to commit, right?
I'm sure with you on that.
It's easy to understand f-ing thieves and murderers - they get the loot
after the crime.
But what do the Democrats gain by watching Bush loot other countries and
What do the Democrats gain by watching Bush send four soldiers a day
to their deaths
for Bush's right to reclaim his oil on which those damn Iraqis had the
gall to be born?
"I'd like to
thank the Democrats..."
Ohio Vote Fraud Claim Revealed
by William Rivers Pitt
The mounting evidence of election tampering by
Triad representatives has motivated John Kerry to
join with Green Party and Libertarian Party representatives
in their Ohio recount effort. John Kerry
will file papers in support of the Green Party/
Libertarian Party recount effort. Specifically, Kerry will
be filing a request for expedited discovery regarding
Triad Systems voting machines, as well as a
motion for a preservation order to protect any
and all discovery and preserve any evidence on this matter.
I didn't understand this story, but I thought it needed to be published.
For some reason, the language used in these recount stories goes right
over my head.
You have two minutes to record your message.
We don't want much this Christmas,
...just some balls.
Subject: Eating your own,
Hey Bart, what's up with the Bev Harris thing,
Even Randi Rhodes is pissed at her.
But, but why did Randi take the interview transcripts
off Err America archives?
Why is there no archive of the interview on Randi's
I can't speak for Randi, but giving crazy Bev less publicity is a good
But I got a copy of the interview, ha, ha, ha.
You must be very proud.
Do you read it often, with one hand free?
It's about 15 minutes long and it's got a laugh
a minute in it.
Harris don't know how to turn on an answering machine
and she's gonna break the Diebold scandal?
What a funch of buckin' idiots.
Monkey, I talked to Santa.
That tire hanging from a tree you wanted for Christmas?
Santa said no.
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