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"Try harder to think of some mistake I might've
-- Bush's New Year's resolution
Department reverses Torture Memo
Does somebody at Justice read bartcop.com?
Reversing course, the Justice Department has
adopted a revised view of what
constitutes torture under federal law, rejecting
an earlier department position linked
to abuses of military prisoners and suspected terrorists
in Cuba and Iraq.
Torture is abhorrent both to American law and
values and to international norms,"
the brand-new analysis begins, reversing Bush's
all-torture, all-the-time policies.
The opinion replaces an August 2002 Justice
Department memo that implied that torture
of military detainees could be justified under
certain circumstances. The disclosure of that memo
triggered a firestorm of criticism from human rights
groups, members of Congress and others.
Slay Governor of Baghdad Region
"We like Bush because of the great job he's done in Iraq"
Gunmen assassinated the governor of Baghdad
province and six of his bodyguards on Tuesday,
and a suicide truck bomber killed 10 people at
an Interior Ministry commando headquarters in
western Baghdad, the latest in a steady drumbeat
of insurgent violence ahead of Jan. 30 elections.
Governor Ali al-Haidari's three-vehicle convoy
was passing through Baghdad when gunmen opened fire.
He is the highest-ranking Iraqi official killed
since the former president of the now defunct Governing Council,
Abdel-Zahraa Othman, better known as Izzadine Saleem,
was assassinated in May.
Gee, I wish I was a high-ranking Bush puppet in Iraq.
Every day, more people die and it just keeps getting worse.
"I keep having to remind people that religion in
and of itself is morally neutral.
Religion is like a knife. When you use a knife
for cutting up bread to prepare sandwiches,
a knife is good. If you use the same knife
to stick into somebody's guts, a knife is bad.
Religion in and of itself is not good or bad
- it is what it makes you do ."
Subject: Michael Moore provides
backup quite nicely...
Moore has a site that goes line by line through
the movie providing multiple sources for everything that is said.
This looks like it might be your style.
Adam, thanks for that.
Of course, if the lying GOP had any real beef to pick with Moore, they's
agree to debate him live,
but we all know the GOP is afraid to
debate because that would reveal the fallacy of their "logic."
Most any Democrat (besides sellout Alan Colmes) would to do any Republican
what Kerry did to the never-elected Monkey in all three debates.
The closest we got to a Moore-Nazi debate was that few minutes with
but all he wanted to do argue semantics, not facts, because he knew
the facts were on Moore's side.
"I think that the whole project in Iraq is finished.
We are not being told by Blair and Bush
that this is the case, and perhaps through
their own misjudgment or their own fantasies,
they don't even accept this themselves. But
the American project for democracy or whatever
its real purposes were, for oil, economic expansion,
Middle East fit for Israel, whatever it may
have been, that project is finished. It is
hopeless. It cannot succeed. The insurgency in Iraq is
so great now that American troops, however
enormous their technology, cannot control it."
--Robert Fisk, Attribution
vs. the Press in Times of War
The jihad against Bill Clinton, funded by millions
of extreme right money, started in '93, with the destruction
of his health care program, which the vast majority
of Americans wanted and even Repubs had supported.
Talk radio, in the bloviated form of Rush Limbaugh,
Michael Savage, Oliver North, Michael Reagan dispensed
dozens of hours a week of raw brutal Repub propaganda,
attacking and ridiculing Dems with manifest untruths
across the 1200 station Clear Channel network.
In 1994, the payoff came in the takeover of both houses of Congress
by the Repubs. Reporters tilted father and farther
right to maintain access to the Repubs reps and get on the conservative
talk radio and TV networks and the Repub owned
and operated Fox News. Dems had no such platform.
Although a Repub law firm had written a 2 book
'97 report on Whitewater and concluded that the Clintons did
nothing wrong, there were thousands of stories
about the "scandal". A brain tumor addled Jim McDougal had
traded the Clinton's $400,000 stake for a $40,000
plane. In an Alice in Wonderland scenario, prurient Ken Starr
used an army of agents to rip apart administration
lives, all to investigate a minor sexual peccadillo so common that
2 Repub Speakers in a row had to resign for it,
and the President of the United States was impeached and tried by
an extremist Congress. Every reporter should be
forced at gunpoint to read Joe Conason's "The Hunting of the President".
Even if you think you don't need their product,
you might find something you can't live without.
Subject: If I needed a good
...Ramsey Clark would be my choice!
Bob, I don't know much about Clark, maybe he's
a good attorney,
but he's so far left, he makes Neil in Vermont
look like Ol' Bart!
I'm old enough to remember that 24 years ago,
he and Cat Stevens were (to some degree) defending,
justifying and explaining the motives of the Iranian
mob that kidnapped our embassy staff in Tehran.
When Cat Stevens was pulled off that plane a
few months ago, it bothered me less than it should have
because if he's
a known anti-American/pro-terrorist sympathizer, he needs to be closely watched.
Does Saddam deserve a good defense team? Sure,
but why does it have to be a famous American
liberal who gives the voters another reason
to distrust the motives of the American left?
..on the other hand...
Subject: maybe Clark is gathering
to indict and imprison the bushgang. that's
if Saddam lives long enough to tell him.
BN, that would be a smart and clever move, getting on the team, to
gather anti-Bush evidence,
which makes me think it's not the case. When was the last time a Democrat
did something smart & clever? :)
Subject: Ramsey Clark
The first time I heard Ramsey Clark speak I
thought he made sense but then I read some
of his writing where he accused Gen. Clark of war
crimes in Kosovo. From then on I realized
he was a fruit loop. But as for defending Saddam
I don't think that is anywhere near as bad as
James Baker defending the Saudis against the 911
Maria, I agree, but our side is too timid to call Baker on his treasonous
while the wall-to-wall right-wing hate machine will scream, "There
go the liberals
again coming to Saddam's aid," at
Subject: Bartcop community
I just want to make sure you know the bartcop
community totally rocks.
I'm over here in Japan and round xmas and New Years
you can fell seperation from the homeland.
I can rent videos, or get on the phone with friends
and family, but it's damn far away regardless.
However, this year has been a little easier
as I'm now a bartcop member and part of this very AMERICAN community.
The page, radio, and especially the live chat room
have made me feel closer to America than I thought possible.
I'm made friends and interaction with them makes
me feel like I'm still part of the culture.
Thank you very much for bringing the bartcop community
together, it's a damn special place.
Also, if there is still any chance (I've heard
rumors) that pokerfest will be in Maui this February,
please make the announcement soon, it's the only
time I have vacation and am going to Maui.
Will buy my tickets this week.
But it's not like missing pokerfest is gonna
piss me off.
I am getting way more than I pay for from bartcop,
just like to buy you a shot in person.
When we were offered first class, round trip tickets to anywhere, the
Paris in the Spring or Maui just about any time. Mrs. Bart
has always wanted to see
Hawaii and Alaska, so we're kicking around the 5-0 option.
There are a handfull of readers in Hawaii, so we thought we'd try
a pokerfest there.
One thing - flights to Hawaii are pretty full in the winter.
It may be April or May before seats are available - we'll know soon.
Look forward to meeting you, Tim, and Fud, and Froederick, and Symbolman
...do they have fine tequila on those islands, or should I bring my
"One year after his capture, Saddam Hussein's
trial for war crimes, considered the most important
since Nuremburg, has yet to hear a single world
of testimony....Critics point to several failures:
that Saddam has not yet been allowed to meet
with a lawyer; that the trial will permit testimony
obtained under torture; and that much of the
evidence from mass grave sites was not properly
preserved or recorded....Saddam waits in his
cell, without charge or legal counsel."
Let me get this straight:
We sent 150,ooo men into battle without enough armor because the evidence
was "so overwhelming"
that the 21rst century Hitler was about to destroy America - and now there's
not enough evidence?
And one reason Bush invaded is because Saddam was toruring his people,
so we used torture
to get people to confess that Saddam was having people tortured?
This makes sense in the universe of Bush voters?
on Piss Christ
I believe St. Augustine said something to the
effect of "We are all born between the urine and the feces".
Well so was God made man, then.
Serrano's photo is probably going to be an icon
for some time to come and I for one find it a beautiful image
and think it less a shock image than the media
wants to make it.
Something in the world makes us think, and it
isn't recognition; it's confrontation.
Hope you're doing well,
Jimmy, I read you and I understand.
Think how different that piece of art would
be with a different name.
Isn't "Piss Christ" simply a "Fuck you" to everyone who believes in
Make no mistake, Serrano didn't accidentally name it that.
We've got the best books by the best authors.
Blast Gov't Response to Tsunami
Hours after a tsunami flattened south Asia
beaches - a magnet for thousands
of vacationing Swedes - the Swedish foreign minister
went to the theater.
Foreign Minister Laila Freivalds' outing has
come to represent for many Swedes
the government's failure to fully realize the scope
of last week's disaster and to respond quickly.
As the extent of Swedish casualties has unfolded
- 2,322 Swedes are missing and 52
are confirmed dead - normally tolerant Swedes have
directed rage and frustration against
government leaders, accusing them of incompetence
and lack of leadership.
That outrage is likely to haunt the current
government when Swedes go to the polls
in national elections next year, analysts warned
Hmmm, sleeping on the job, going on vacation
when they're needed the most,
it sounds like the government in Sweden handles
disasters just like The Monkey.
In Sweden, when government incompetence and
reckless disregard kills people, they get outraged.
In America, we applaud the lazy, always-on-vacation
bastards and elect them to another term,
at least that's what we're told by Bush, Kerry,
Diebold and the TV networks.
as seen at http://www.fotolog.net/grand_lake/?pid=8760808
What song was playing in Silvio's Cadillac when
he whacked Adrianna?
Barracuda by Heart
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Subject: Re: hey from bart
You had me at "hey". As a former altar boy, ex-Franciscan
seminarian, ex-bouncer, and ex-radio guy,
I heretoforty pledge to become a Bartcop regular
(if the medicine works, i.e.)<<<(and it's cutting edge
humor like that that is the reason I am no longer
doing morning gigs) when my 30 day trial is up.
It's scary that there's someone else on the
planet that thinks--and talks!--the way I do.
The line about you and Mrs. Bart timing your meds
to kick in when Alias starts was hilarious!
Oh shit! I'm becoming something that I sued to
make fun of, a groupie!
Keep up the great work! Btw, that Tally is one
foxy sounding lady.
Have a holly jolly new year!
"Even in this cynical time, the level of cynicism
of this one is reaching new proportions.
It's being dubbed by some as 'hush medals.'
You know, these guys still have to write their memoirs,
and their take on what happened in Iraq in
particular, and when you get a medal from the President,
it makes you a little bit nicer about what
you may or may not want to write."
--USA Today's Tom Squitieri Attribution
Is this Bush Handjob Nation, giving an employee a medal and giving
a reporter a cute nickname
is all Bush needs to get the press corp to say that two plus two equals
War' Against Whom?
by Robert Parry
Too important for an excerpt - you really need
to read this article.
Note: consortiumnews.com is the most important site on
saw it on freewayblogger.com
Subject: crucifix in urine
Bart, who's Jim Malone?
Jim Malone was Sean Connery's character in The
Untouchables, the guy who said,
"If they pull a knife, we pull a gun. If they put
one of ours in a hospital,
we put two of theirs in the morgue."
The Democrats need a whole lot of Jim Malones
but we have a bunch of Bernard Shaws, instead
It was just a metaphor, I wouldn't really shoot
who disagreed with me - probably.
I just looked in my mail box and saw the stack of "unsubscribe" messages.
Apparently Serrano's work is the third rail for Democratic webmasters.
Koresh, is there not anything I can write about without losing
I can just imagine the story on Buzzflash:
"Bartcop.com, once a small
but popular lefty website, went under in 2005
because he was too stubborn
to get on the Piss Christ bandwagon that
took over the Democratic
Party in the early 21st Century."
One Sued Over Credit Card Ads
What's in YOUR wallet?
Minnesota's attorney general has sued credit
card issuer Capital One, accusing the
big U.S. credit card issuer of falsely advertising
low rates and defrauding consumers.
Attorney General Mike Hatch said Capital One
nearly quadruples the rate it charges some
customers who trigger a "penalty" rate by paying
a bill one
day late or defaulting in other
A Capital One spokeswoman said the company "believes
it has acted properly and in full
compliance with the law," and is cooperating with
the attorney general to resolve the matter.
According to the complaint, cardholders who
receive an initial 4.99
percent interest rate
and later default may see their rate skyrocket
percent, even though Capital
advertised that the lower rate was "fixed."
The lawsuit said Capital One's marketing violates
state laws against false advertising, consumer fraud
and deceptive trade practices. Minnesota is seeking
restitution for cardholders, civil penalties,
disgorgement of profits, and an injunction barring
These guys are serious "bank robbers."
You'd probably rather owe money to your neighborhood loan shark than
As the accusation reads, they promise that the 4.99 is "fixed," but
they sent you a 46-page
pamphlet with print tinier than Cheney's heart that reveals, (if you
have a law degree and
a finance degree and 20 years of street smarts) that if you're ever one
they jack you up to the 20 percent rate and they gouge you to death like
It's so easy to see - you have to wonder how
these crooks can buy 40 commercials a night
on the most expensive TV shows offering loans at "prime."
Credit card companies make billions off the
people who they have ensnared.
When these crooks say the company "believes
it has acted properly and in full
compliance with the law," they're
legally right, because they lobbied to have the laws
written that allows them to screw the little guy
to death - again and again.
THEN they whine that the bankruptcy laws
are killing them?
Hey liars - if it's so hard to make in it your
line of work, why do you buy 40 commercials a night
on the most expensive TV shows and beg for more
desperate people to crwl into your snare?
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buys Randy Johnson
Pays another $46 million to make Yankees stronger
This reminds me of high school football in Oklahoma.
Can the school with 2500 student beat the school
with 550 students in football?
Rude Rich - I know you thought of me
when you heard the news.
When it comes to predicting the future, Steinbrenner makes me look like
My good friend Marty in Chicago has a radio station.
Subject: Ramsey Clark
Why is Ramsey Clark "too liberal"?
Who is the Bush administration to try Saddam
Rumsfeld gave him the poison gas!
These vampires have no right trying anyone.
Bart, sometimes you seem to share a weakness
with some lefties - that is, worrying if
you will come off as being a "wacko" to people
who would just as soon see you dead.
I don't trust Ramsey Clark, but I do endorse
the idea that if Hussein is deprived of adequate
representation, the Bush boys will bury our contribution
to Saddam's savage past.
John, I'm not sure the problem is "my weakness."
I worry that we'll come off as "wackos" to the voters.
Do we want to win in 2008?
Or do we want to take a stand for Ramsey Clark, Saddam and Piss Christ?
"Television must deal with political pressures
to conform to resurgent conservative values that
appear to be stifling editorial courage in
the newsroom. ( Dan) Rather had the strength to criticize
'these partisan, political ideological challenges.'
Will his successor have similar courage? Will the
timid network executives have the old-fashioned
backbone to take on a crusading administration? I doubt it."
CBS and NBC reporter Marvin Kalb, Attribution
In Prison For Selling Marijuana
Bush's cocaine bust was covered up - so he could be president
Angelos was sentenced to 55 years in prison
for selling marijuana to undercover cops.
As his judge pointed out, that's more time than
if he had hijacked an airplane (25 years),
beaten someone to death in a fight (13 years),
or raped a 10-year-old child (11 years).
Angelos isn't alone:
Jonathan Magbie died three months ago while
serving a 10-day sentence for pot possession in a jail
in D.C. Magbie, a quadriplegic,
used pot to treat his chronic pain. He was unable to breathe on his own,
and the jail -- unequipped to meet his medical
needs -- allowed him to die while in custody.
Pleasing the Invisible Cloud being is more important than human life?
That Angelos guy could do less time for raping four children than selling
Pot is worse than multiple child rapes?
Subject: Christopher Hitchens
I'm glad somebody else is noticing that Hitchens,
still beloved by some lefties,
is as transparent and stupid a fraud as any "I'm
not a Democrat, but I play one on T.V."
type to get wrangled for slaughter on Fox or MSNBC.
I guess people just hear the part they like. At
this point, however, Hitchens has turned in
friends to Ken Starr, praised Halliburton and
laughed off the Military Industrial complex,
while calling Michael Moore "fat" and a "liar."
Guess those scenes of the Marines waiting like
jackals to feed on the jobless High School grads got to him.
Nobody argued more passionately for the high degree
of honor we were fighting with in Iraq than the
embedded, lap dog Hitchens, and now he trys to
feign shock over the Prison abuse scandals.
Well, there is too much, at this point, to go
into. It's amazing someone at Salon or elsewhere
wastes the opportunity of a major hit piece on
this sitting duck target. Only "Counterpunch"
takes him to task, and they are half as crazy as
soldier body count in Iraq
1321, 1327, 1333,
1337, dead heroes under Bush
Bush and his gang of thugs steal $100 million
dollars a day.
Our soldiers are dying to make that happen.
Subject: Jake Johansson
Love your page, will probably subscribe at some
Just wanted to write in support of Jake Johansson.
I don't watch a lot of TV so haven't seen him
much there but have seen him
several times when he has come to Boston to do
his stand-up routine.
I think that he is an intelligent comedian with
a very good act.
I laugh at material that I've heard several times
because it is well written
and his presentation/delivery is good every time.
If you don't like Jake, who would you hold up
as a comedian worth paying to see.
Who's out there right now that you like?
A fan of you and Jake,
Jon, I don't dislike Jake, but Dave used to have him on once a month
you figure New York must have other comedians besides Jake.
I can't think of a good new comic - seems like Jay & Dave don't
have new guys on anymore.
As far as who I like, Chris Rock is still king, Maher is great, Stewart
and Chapelle, etc.
You have two minutes to record your message.
making a note
I have read lots of Evolutionist books and
had it in school, also, and nobody has ever been able
to tell me HOW, exactly, anything evolved. There
is only the dogmatic insistence THAT it all evolved,
with explanations that are nothing more than guesses
(and use "may be" "could have been" "probably" "likely" etc.)
and do not give a scientific, replicable, observable
method saying precisely how.
Dude, I'm not sure "how" matters.
I can't tell you how gravity works, but it's
As far as evolution, I've never met you,
but I'll bet you a shot of Chinaco that you have a tailbone.
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