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1651 - President Poison
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"Too funny! Hastert and Frist make a big show
of calling for an investigation into a national security leak
and then -- BOOM!!!
Lott said he thinks it was a GOP Senator who leaked it to the WaHoPo."
The GOP is "on tilt."
In poker, that means they're too crazed to think right.
I'm loving it, with a shot of Chinaco in my hand...
Election 2004 Was Stolen
by Robert Parry as seen on consortiumnews.com
Sen. John Kerry, the Democratic presidential
candidate in 2004, has told acquaintances over the past year
that he suspects that the election was stolen,
but that he didn't challenge the official results because he lacked
hard proof and anticipated a firestorm of criticism
if he pressed the point.
But one effect of Kerry's avoidance of a public
battle may be the despair among millions of Americans who
feel their democratic birthright was taken along
with the last two presidential elections
Poor John - he wanted to fight for democracy and freedom, but
he was afraid he might be criticized.
He didn't mind facing Charlie's guns in Vietnam, but fear
of criticism gave the world more of Bush?
John, why didn't you tell us you were afraid
to be president?
Why didn't you tell us we had a quitter
pushing better men out of the race?
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The GOP did the crime!!
Racist Senator accuses own party of treason!!
Trent Lott (Racist-MS) told CNN that he believed
it was a Republican senator who gave
information about secret CIA jails abroad to
the WaHoPo, according to rawstory.com.
Lott said that much of the info in the WaHoPo
report -- that Bush has secret torture prisons
in the former USSR -- was discussed at a meeting
of Republican senators last Tuesday.
The revelation appears to put the fuck on Bill
Frist, who screwed Lott of of his job and
the sweaty wrestler Dennis Hastert who called
for investigattions to find the leakers.
The CIA has requested a formal investigation like the Plame case.
I can't think of anything more fun than a civil war in the Republican
Well, I can, but not that I can't talk about.
We could have a really, really fun three years coming up.
"The Bush IRS is threatening to strip a California
church of its tax exempt status because
a guest rector delivered a sermon against
the war in Iraq during the 2004 campaign."
--The Buzz, Link
What about the Catholics?
Remember those bishops who announced (for no reason) that they'd refuse
If we're going to attack Churches, let's attack the ones that rape children
Subject: school shooting
The kid probably got the gun from home where it
was being kept to "protect" the family.
The gun was used to kill someone a family member
had a disagreement with.
Like with the right to drive a car, or the right to have an abortion,
there is a downside to gun ownership.
It should be a felony to leave a gun where a "kid" can get to it, but
I'd guess most 15-year old boys are
smarter than their parents, so yes, that is a problem. Maybe if you
have kids, you need to keep your guns
in a safe and keep the combination in your head, not written down.
But it's not like *I* voted to flood America with 200M guns.
Whatever the downside of gun ownership is, we have to deal with it.
Condemning guns does as much good as condemning rainy weekends.
Who's behind the kidnapping murders of two members of Team Saddam?
Who gains the most if Saddam never has a chance to speak
at a trial?
Dick, can we poison Unka Saddam to shut him up?"
win in NJ, VA
Everybody hates Bush and the GOP
Democrats cleaned up big in off-year elections
from New Jersey to California, sinking the candidate who
embraced Der Monkey in the final days of the
Virginia governor's campaign. They also turned back all four
of Grab-Ass Musclehead's efforts to sell the
government of California to his super-rich corporate buddies.
Corzine easily won the New Jersey governor's seat,
trouncing Bush-lover Doug Forrester by 10 points.
Tim Kaine won a solid victory in GOP-leaning
Virginia, beating Kilgore by more than 5 points.
Bush's election-eve rally for Kilgore only spurred
more sane people to the polls.
In California, Team Gropennegger/BFEE failed to
kick Democrat ass. All four of his ballot measures flopped:
Democrats said the results were the first steps
toward bigger victories next year - when control
of Congress and 36 governors seats are at stake
- and for the 2008 presidential race.
On Air America Radio today, some guy told Al Franken, "We
can't read too much into this..."
I think he's wrong, wrong, wrong.
This is solid proof, with the BFEE losing 6 of
6 races, that George Bush is Poison.
Embrace Bush, you're going to lose.
Embrace Bush, you're going down.
Embrace Bush, you're out of politics and the
new sheriff in town isn't (as) crooked.
Who can afford to go down with (or on) Bush now?
me, I'm a top.
Talk to Scottie the Underbear..."
In a stinging rebuke from voters who elected
him two years ago, Gov. Musclehead's efforts to
reshape state government were rejected during
a special election that darkened his future in politics.
The brainless bully likes to say he can sell anything,
on Tuesday saw all four of his signature ballot proposals rejected.
The unions spent millions of dollars to beat
Schwarzenegger's propositions to limit the use of their member dues for
political purposes, cap state spending, redraw
legislative districts and restrict public school teacher tenure.
It was a sobering evening for a man once considered
among the most popular politicians in America.
The contest represented the biggest test yet
of a faltering Schwarzenegger's leadership.
No telling how much of this is America rejecting
Bush, but I feel better that this idiot's plans to be president
have probably been derailed. It's good that this
country won't have to go thru what California has been going thru.
Also, they say he lost because he wasn't very digified when he told
the teachers and nurses
that he was going to "kick their butts,"
but the meaning that point is completely lost on me.
Before he won election, he wasn't very dignified, either.
"St. Paul Mayor Randy Kelly broke Democratic
Party ranks last year
to announce his support for President
--AP, "St. Paul's Mayor Backs Bush",
"St. Paul voters held what amounted to a referendum
on Bush as they picked a
mayor Tuesday, with Randy Kelly haunted
by his 2004 endorsement of Bush.
Coleman beat Kelley by more than 2-to-1.
Polls showed voters were primed to
fire Kelly, and most cited his support
for Bush as the reason."
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Trifecta of Defeat
The whole world hates Bush and the GOP
In the 2005 off-year election, the Democrats
won governorships in Virginia and New Jersey.
And, to put the icing on the cake, all of Arnold's
(the Gropinator's) initiatives (which cost
cash-strapped California millions of extra dollars
to vote on) failed!
You can bet the already nervous Republicans who
are Busheviks out of fear that DeLay or Rove will
blow their knee caps off if they stray from the
Politburo (White House) party line are now going to
start breaking away out of fear that they will
lose their 2006 elections.
Virginia was a heavy loss for Bush, who made a
last-minute campaign stop to shore up the slash-and-smear
GOP candidate Kilgore. But the Bush magic is
now the Bush tar -- and Kilgore went down big.
If the Republicans want to survive, they must denounce the Illegal Furhrer.
Rove might even encourage that, because a big defeat in 2006 would
give control to Democrats
and that would (if they grow a pair) mean impeachment hearings for
the murdering thieves.
Subject: cars & guns
Bart, you are as right about the gun issue as
you are wrong about the import car issue.
You will NEVER win the gun argument.
Just refer the gun haters to amendment #2.
It's a CHOICE. Keep hammerin.
Glad you got to go enjoy the Rev. Bono!
Danny, good to hear from you.
Maybe we were both right about those cars.
New report says Japan had 29
of the top 31 models for dependability, but for the first time,
Detroit was within striking distance AND the cars like the Toyota Avalon
was rated "average and
some Infinity models had a 67 percent complaint rate - so Detroit is
going in the right direction.
As far as guns, the far-lefties think I'm a "gun nut" because
I'm less gun-phobic than they are.
Some of them also see me as, "Mr. Torture," because I never
say never to saving a million lives.
I thought one big difference between the parties was that while the
pole-up-the-ass Republican nutjobs
can only see issues in Limbaugh black-and-white, our
side had the ability to see the shades of gray,
which proves those who see me as "Bush's twin" are as hopelessly blind
as the Republicans they hate.
Thanks for the note.
After that beating you took last time, I feared you wouldn't return
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Subject: your credibility concerning
"I'm no John McCain fan but all politicians should
take a look at how he handled the ridiculous
"I've been watching too many episodes of 24"
scenario yesterday morning:
S. O'BRIEN: Aren't there examples,
though -- where are examples, maybe, where torture is the only option left?
McCAIN: Well, first of all,
torture doesn't work, as we have proved. Second of all, if there was a
one in a million
situation where that would
happen, then the president would take responsibility for it.
That's exactly right.
If extraordinary circumstances ever arose nothing
would stop the president from doing what is necessary. The power
of pardon is absolute, and no president is going
to be impeached for stopping someone from blowing up New York."
Bart, this is your last chance to repair your
credibility concerning torture.
It's pretty bad when John McCain's position is
more clear and more reasonable than yours.
Crazy Chris in Boca
Dude, we were just talking about you!
I can't say if my position is the same as McCain's,
but my scenario for torture has always been
that one-in-a-million situation - and I never
said torture should be legalized - are ye daft?
Are you so far left that Colorado and Rhode Island
look like neighbors?
There are miles of light between my position
You don't come here for the hunting, ...do you?
In the aftermath of the California special election
the headlines read, "SCHWARZENEGGER ROUTED",
a welcome bulletin that for inspirational value
ranks a close second to "COULTER DROWNS IN SEWAGE
TREATMENT MISHAP". Yet the most relevant factor
is not that He Who Gropes has just been groped.
It is the way in which he has been groped that
serves as a template for liberal success.
Soon after taking office, Schwarzenegger declared
war on the "special interests", which from his perspective
are the employees who serve the taxpayers. Arnold
sued to block changes in the state's nurse-patient staffing
ratios that would have improved medical care,
and then taunted the nurses that he was "kicking their butts".
The governor also targeted educators and public
safety personnel for abuse while promoting ballot initiatives
designed to skew political power even further
towards his corporate benefactors.
There is nothing unusual about a Republican attacking
has good stuff.
"In 1998, 16 major polls asked about impeaching
Clinton...Only 36% supported hearings
to consider impeachment, and only 26% supported
actual impeachment and removal.
Even so, the impeachment debate dominated
the news for months, and the Republican
Congress impeached Clinton despite overwhelming
--David Swanson, my good friend,
"By a margin of 53% to 42%, Americans want
Congress to impeach Bush if he lied
about the war in Iraq, according to a new
Zogby poll. 53% agreed with the statement:
"If Bush did not tell the truth about going
to war with Iraq, Congress should consider
holding him accountable through impeachment."
The Democrats would never impeach Bush.
"It wouldn't be right."
"We'd be just like them if we did."
"Going negative serves no purpose."
"The voters want us to get along."
"That wouldn't be fair..."
Hey, Pink Tutus, Bob Shrum and Mary Beth Cahill showed us what "fair"
"Fare" is what you pay to get on
the damn bus.
There is no "fair" in war - there
is only victory or death.
One quick thought, Bart.
Republican House and Senate leaders asked for
an investigation into who leaked information to the WaHoPo
about CIA-run secret prisons." What is interesting
that they only care about who LEAKED the information.
The question of WHETHER or WHY or HOW we're running
clandestine "Torture `R' Us" facilities
around the world is no big deal to them!
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Subject: how Hillary was to know
The rest of the world knew the claims that Saddam
was a threat were bogus.
Saying "everybody knew" isn't evidence.
Plus, you're ready to gamble with the lives of,
what, 150 million Americans?
And you'd gamble those 150 million lives on an
Are you really a lawyer? :)
The countries surrounding Iraq did not feel threatened.
That'ss not evidence, either.
Did we feel threatened the day before 9/11?
Surely eyebrows should have been raised when Saddam
allowed the inspectors unfettered access to his country.
Why couldn't Hillary and the rest of the Democratic
senators have merely said that war is a drastic thing?
Show us the proof and/or convince our allies
that the threat is real and then we will vote to authorize
Hey, *I* didn't say Bush's evidence was real.
I'm saying Bush had the CIA brief the senate
and they said the threat was real.
You don't just give an evil man a blank check
to take your sons and daughters to war without definitive proof.
If they had definitive proof, they could have
convinced our allies. If they had definitive proof, surely the UN
inspectors who had unfettered access to the entire
country could have found the weapons as well as the means
to get the nukes or chemicals to the US.
But they told us before the war that they had found nothing to
substantiate the claims being made by the administration.
Dave the lawyer
Dave, I'm just asking you to put yourself in Hillary's position before
no WMDs were found.
Subject: trip report
Thanks for that Bart.
I love the site, of course, but it was those old
in the early issues that got me hooked years
Haven't gotten to BCR 84 yet, but they keep getting
better and better.
You've helped me lose fifteen pounds because
my favorite way to listen
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dog on our bike path with my
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getting me back into shape, buddy.
(People look at me funny as I'm usually laughing
as I walk.)
If all you rich Republican bastards bought a Hi-Def Plasma TV this
prices might fall to where we decent, non-rich Democrats could buy
one next Christmas.
Damn, go to Best Buy and check those Hi-Def Plasma TVs, they
The picture seems much clearer than a DVD, but I'd have
to A-B them to be sure.
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Subject: let's put all the war
criminals on trial
Any leader who used banned weapons should be put
on trial for international war crimes.
It doesn't matter what country the leader is
from. If he did the crime he should face the penalties.
This includes the generals and the men who carried
out the mass slaughters. If Saddam Hussein
used poison gas he should be imprisoned or executed.
Similarly, if George Bush used illegal banned
weapons in Iraq then he too, along with the generals
that executed his orders, be put on trial, too.
It is becoming clear that America used phosphorus
shells last November in its attack on the city of Fallujah.
Phosphorus burns bodies. It melts the flesh all
the way down to the bone. It is a hideous weapon that only
a cruel tyrant would use. If the reports are
true that Bush used phosphorus, an outlawed chemical weapon,
then Bush should be removed from office immediately
and taken into custody for trial. Shock and awe is
the experience of watching America degenerate
into doing what the Nazis did. Secret prisons, torture,
and now massacre. It's a crime that we allow
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Bart, you wrote:
> "From the left, I get, "Hillary should have
known better," but that makes no sense.
> Hillary doesn't have a private CIA - she
doesn't have a team of deep cover spies lurking in Iraq.
> Can anybody answer that?
> How was Hillary supposed to say no to defending
the Eastern Seaboard? "
Presumably, she now realizes she was lied to,
so why is she calling for more defense spending, still?
Bart, you don't have an answer to that one.
The Florida Orange
FLO, you don't want to bet that I can't answer your question.
As I've said 100 times, if
we withdraw tomorrow, Zarqawi gets the $100M a day that Bush is stealing.
You have to address that or we'll be forced to assume you're just a
Now, assuming you agree that we can't leave tomorrow, every military
expert not in the BFEE
says we don't have enough troops there to do the damn job and that's
partly what's killing our men.
They're clearing the same villages 4-5 times, then the bad guys regroup
and we go back and clear it again.
The answer is to get rid of Bush. Once we do that, we share the
occupation of Iraq with the UN,
which will be our friend again once we get rid of the snotty spoiled
kid who pissed off all his allies.
I snipped out all that childish crap you sent.
Could you act more like an adult next time you write?
Have you called the
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"Of course Cheney knew what Libby was doing
with reporters. There's an old expression
from Watergate: 'Whatever Haldeman knew, Nixon
knew.' To think that Dick Cheney had
no idea what Lewis Libby was doing is just
kind of absurd."
--Sam Donaldson, (Is he still alive?)
to Chris the Screamer,
Subject: what is it with you
Bill Clinton would have to be one of the best
people in the world at knowing
who to know and how to get to know them.
Are you telling me that during the
eight years that he sat in the White House that
he didn't make one "good" connection
in the CIA, the FBI and all the rest of the alphabet
Or are you saying that he wouldn't have passed
any relevant information on to his wife???
And, the same thing goes for the rest of the people
who have been sitting as Reps and Senators for years.
They all have their sources. Pleading ignorance
James, if I read you correctly, you're asking why nobody in the CIA
has dropped a dime on Bush?
They seem to be doing that this week (and when they sent the Plame
matter to Justice) but I have no
answer for that. There had to be hundreds or thousands of agents who
know Bush has been lying.
As for "me and Hillary," I think she has the best chance to win.
I want the BFEE out of the White House and on trial.
Iraq pumps 2,000,000 barrels a day,
(and that was before the 2002 Halliburton Upgrade)
times today's oil price which is
$59.71 a barrel
Bush stole just yesterday
2058 have died for Halliburton
since yesterday - for what?
So Exxon can make $75,000 profit
like Unka Dick predicted
Bush brought in a gusher of blood.
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How dare he talk about his life on the air?
Howard Stern got a one-day suspension Monday
after heavily promoting his move to satellite radio.
"We expect him back on Wednesday," said Infinity
spokeswoman Karen Mateo.
She wouldn't call Stern's absence a suspension
and declined to comment further.
Listeners will hear a compilation of Stern's
best shows on Tuesday, she said.
But Stern's spokesman Matt Traub confirmed the
shock jock had been suspended, adding:
"This is an act of desperation by men who are
losing their once-in-a-lifetime franchise."
They might as well let him go now.
He's not going to stop talking about his life and his future - that's
what built the show.
When/if he comes back Wednesday, he's expected to bow to their arbitrary
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"I think Bush is in the loop the way Tony Soprano
is in the loop at the Bada Bing.
I mean...He's the godfather. The godfather
doesn't know all the details."
--Howard Fineman, calling
Bush stupid, Link
ex Fears for Her
Is she becoming religiously insane for Cruise?
Katie Holmes's former fiance Chris Klein fears
she actress is being brainwashed
Cruise's Church of Scientology. Holmes
converted at Cruises's request - but Klein
fears she is not being allowed to make her own
Isn't that true for anyone controlled by religion?
Who wants to obey a book of rules written by people who want your money?
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