"This thing is becoming a tsunami, and that's before
Obama even wins New Hampshire and South Carolina.
I don't see how Clinton recovers." -- the Great and Powerful Kos, who accepted thousands
in Clinton ad money, then proclaimed her dead,Link
While Sen. Clinton says she knows how to combat the right-wing attack machine,
the truth is that she and her husband most often ended up on the losing end of those fights.
Oh Christ, I'm going to have to straighten out Robert Parry?
That's not something I want to do, but isn't that what friends are for?
Under fire from the Right, they botched the best chance in decades to enact universal health care;
You're saying they tried and failed - I agree - but has anybody tried since then?
You could have asked why every other Democrat refused to even try,
but you chose to attack.
And yes, health care failed - but why? Because the please-don't-hurt-me-Democrats
ran like bunnies from that health care fight and gave a big victory to the GOP.
they oversaw devastating Democratic congressional defeats starting in 1994;
That happened because the Democrats joined the Republicans in denouncing the Clintons,
agreeing that they "needed to be watched" so the voters got scared and voted that way.
If the please-don't-hurt-me-Democrats had backed their president on health care the way
the GOP backs their president on wars, torture, kidnapping and the rape of our civil rights,
Democrats would've remained in power and we'd be in Year 13 of universal health care.
Bill Clinton became the first President since Andrew Johnson to be impeached by the
House though he managed to survive after the spectacle of a Senate trial; and their
missteps set the stage for the restoration of the Bush Dynasty in 2000.
Bob, with all respect - seriously?
I think you just said Clinton deserved to be impeached.
You're staring to sound a little like Zell Miller, Bob.
Plus, Clinton left office with an approval rating near 70 percent,
so how did they
"set the stage" for Gore's horrible campaign?
One BIG reason Gore lost is he refused to let Bill campaign for him and he picked
Lieberman to demonstrate to the voters
that he was further distancing himself from Bill and his 70% approval rating,
then he couldn't find his way back to 50% and that's the Clinton's fault?
The Clintons also engineered a generational change in the Democratic Party
ushered out – or marginalized – many of the party’s old lions...
You're wanting to punish the Clintons for "ushering out the old lions?"
I think that's called, "the next generation taking control of the party."
Had Bill been a big loser, maybe those "old lions" would still be relevant.
with a coterie of careerists and accommodators.
Bill Clinton hired a bunch of "yes" men?
Compared to who?
George W Bush?
Though the Clintons may have wanted to “do good” for the country,
Damn, Bob concedes the Clintons may have meant well?
Who am I arguing with?
they opted for a strategy of unprincipled compromise and “triangulation,”
a concept of endless repositioning that Hillary Clinton championed as
First Lady and as a top political adviser to her husband.
I disagree - I say they opted for a strategy of winning.
Remember, the Democrats turned their back on their own first-term president.
Like Hillary today, Bill had to fight the Democrats and he had to fight the Republicans and he had to fight the whore press
and he won that second term, remember, Bob?
If the Clintons are such losers, could you point to a few winners for me?
<Bart drinks a tall glass of milk>
How about a truce, Bob?
What if we each stated plainly and clearly on our websites
we will vigorously support the Democratic nominee in November?
"If nothing else, New Hampshire revealed how much media pundits know.
It proves they're full of shit (yeah, I'm looking at you Chris Matthews).
But maybe it's also evidence that we shouldn't make broad, sweeping judgments
about a country of 290 million people, based on the vote of 230,000 people in Iowa."
-- Rimjob, Link
Let's take a look at "Hillary's dirty laundry" list.
1. Obama is too liberal.
2. Obama is too conservative.
3. Obama is soft on crime.
4. Obama lacks depth and specificity.
5. Obama is a dreamer.
Nothing approaching the facts - just pure Limbaugh-esque hate.
Out of these 5 reasons, Arianna mind-reads FOUR times, quotes her ONCE, saying, "On a lot of these issues it is hard to know where Obama stands,
and people need to ask that,"
The gall of Hillary Clinton, saying we need to know where Obama stands.
Can you believe the chutzpa of these Clintons?
For the last week, the Republican-controlled news media has been doing
to stop Hillary from being president.
Nobody Likes Hillary
Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton
Hillary in Meltdown as Panic Grips Staff
Talk of Clinton Dropping Out
Hillary Braced for a Second Defeat
Drudge: Hillary Preparing to Drop Out
No one even mentioned the possibility that Hillary might win.
100% of them got it wrong!
But in spite of all that slanted reporting the people of New Hampshire
who live in the real world
voted to give the night to Hillary.
New Hampshire, like America, likes Hillary!
Tonight, Hillary not only defeated Obama, she defeated the news media.
Even though they were kicking her when she was down, Hillary has shown that she has
the strength to win. And if she has that kind of strength it can only make me hope that
those rich media types are going to have to pay their share of the taxes.
For the last week the media has been laughing at her.
But as the old saying goes, "She who laughs last, laughs best."
In spite of what the media pundits say,
I'm betting Hillary is not going to drop out of the race tomorrow.
"Simpler explanation: polls & pollsters are fucked up. They make a prediction,
get it wrong, and then explain how voters fucked up. Why do people believe the
explanation, since the pollsters got it wrong in the first place? They belong in an
only slightly less vile circle of hell that political reporters."
-- Gene, Link
But Gene, pollsters are also for sale - see John Zogby.
Every time I listen to your radio shows, I tell myself that I need
you a quick
note of thanks, so here it is. I usually listen
to you as I travel
all over the Midwest, showing my dogs. Episode 131
was especially nice
for us since we had a long drive for a show up in
Minneapolis and Randi
Rhodes (along with what seemed like most of AAR)
were off on holiday break.
You kept me awake from Des
Moines to someplace near Clear Lake in Iowa.
Though we don't agree on
everything (most things but not all), you always
give me a chance to
understand those issues from a different point of view.
for keeping me company during those long drives.
Keep the hammer
Robin, thanks for that.
Most of BCR #132 is finished, it should be up tonight
unless I manage to erase half of it like last time.
Mrs. Clinton has meted out her inner life one teaspoon at a time:
a suggestive line
in an interview here, a hearty laugh there.
(Such horseshit from The Old Grey Whore)
So Monday, when she choked up during an appearance at a New Hamster
making a nakedly emotional plea for her candidacy, (More horseshit)
prompted one of the most fiercely debated moments of the campaign.
Americans from across the political spectrum played and replayed the clip,
pausing on every flicker of expression on her face, and asking
After a political lifetime of keeping her emotions secret,
why was she finally
letting her guard down? Was it a spontaneous
outburst or a calculated show?
But, as Bill Harlan wrote, "it was hardly a full-blown breakdown.
(No tears actually
from her face.) I’ve shown much more emotion
over losing my car keys,”
The cable bastards and the
whore networks and talk radio
will tell any clumsy lie necessary to discredit one of the Clintons.
Are we asking too much when we say we just want the truth?
Why can't The Old Grey Whore ever get it right?
"Obama looked incredibly attractive up there with his wife, his beautiful wife, Michelle.
Again -- they are one hell of an attractive couple up there. When they took the stage
there it reminded me a bit of Jack Kennedy and Jackie back in '56." -- Chris the Screamer, gushing over any and all Hillary opponents,Link
It seems on most of my favorite blogsites, people are just enjoying cutting into
Hillary Clinton as if she were some evil child molester...the venom is completely unreal.
I feel like I am at a Freeper site when I am reading that shit.
Now they've come up with 'Hey Hillary, iron my shirt' grrr... the pigs that thought that
one up obviously don't know it's a slap in the face to ALL WOMEN.
More importantly do the women who support Obama condone this crap?
Hillary is not the evil murdering bastard that Bush is.
I believe her when she says she wants to save America.
Newsweek's Eleanor Clift has proclaimed Obama JFK reincarnated: "Obama represents
the possibility of reclaiming the national unity America has lost, and his appeal transcends
race and party," she writes, practically transcribing his campaign literature.
The New York Times ran a breathless article after Obama's Iowa win, explaining that he had
in effect healed the people of Iowa of their apparently deep-seated racism simply by convincing
them to vote for him. "People across America, even in Iowa of all places, can look across the
color line and see the person," marveled one of several African-Americans interviewed for the piece.
The Times insinuated that the only reason past black candidates like Jackson and Sharpton
as successful is that white voters couldn't get over the fact they were black. The fact
that they were
shakedown artists and flim-flammers would only muddy the gospel of Obama the messianic racial healer.
Meanwhile, Obama's record has received remarkably little scrutiny in the mainstream media,
no doubt in part because the press has been eager to keep the race competitive and nudge
off the stage. But part of it must also be a certain reluctance
among reporters to pop the bubble.
Some Republicans say voters like Obama because he has refused to help black people.
Where was Obama on the
racially charge Duke rape case?
He had other things to do.
Where was Obama on the racially charged Jena Six case?
He was busy elsewhere.
Is that what makes Jackson and Sharpton "shakedown artists and flim-flammers?"
Because they were willing to get involved when Obama wasn't?
On Monday I told a black co-worker I feared an Obama candidacy
because white people will lie and publicly claim support of him...but then,
in the privacy of the voting booth, balk at voting for a black man.
I said he'd need a 15% pad just to overcome closet racism.
Weren't the New Hampshire polls wrong by about 15%?
Cliff, you may be right.
There's a thing they call "The Wilder Effect," that says white people
will tell a pollster they'll vote for a black man, then vote white
get into the privacy on the voting booth.
IF such a thing exists, and I'm not saying it does,
I'd rather find out now than in the cold, November rain.
Yours is the only web site that make sense to me.
I never understood the hatred for Hillary from some of the Democratic web sites.
Maybe now they will see what you saw, most of the hatred for her was driven
by the MSM and the pass they gave to Obama.
She is by far the best chance we have to win this election .
Mike T in Mesa AZ
"As obnoxious as is the chortling,
crowing misogyny of a Chris Matthews
or Imus is, the rah-rah gaga
Beatlemania oozing out of the Huffington Post
over Obama is even more revolting."
-- James Wolcott, Link
Don't forget Kos - lots of rah-rah, gaga Beatlemania going on there, too.
It's possible Kos and Arianna are killing Obama's campaign.
"The big challenge here is trying to figure out where the independent vote will go.
If they decide to cast a Democratic ballot, Obama wins huge. If they decide to cast
a Republican one, Obama wins less big...My predictions: Obama - 45, Clinton - 26."’ -- the Great and Powerful Kos, who must be crying buckets today, Link
Are we really going to write off this clearly brilliant, experienced, talented woman
as "cold," "wooden," "unlikable," and allow the most critical election in the history
of the world to be reduced to a popularity contest -- yet again?
Do we ever learn?
Hillary Clinton is a public servant to her core. I hate that she voted for the war,
and I wish she had been a more strident opponent of the Bush/Cheney coupe.
But to say that Obama is more for change than Hillary Clinton is absurd.
What are we basing that on?
That he is a little more left than she is in his rhetoric?
Chris Matthews (who looked like he was going to tear up)
Tim Russert (who went pale and looked like the ghost of Fred Thompson – Is he still alive?)
Andrea Mitchell (who looked like she had a bad hangover, hic’)
The black guy who was on MSNBC (who was clearly upset and needed a doobie)
Joe Scarborough who started his “misogynist” conspiracy theories – god I hate him
They should keep:
Keith Olbermann, who I could not tell who he was for, even though we all know he is a leftie.
Mika Brezinski, who is cute cute cute (am I being sexist?), but she seems neutral most of the time;
did I say she was cute?
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"It's true people sometimes need to be placed under involuntary
because they can't take care of themselves," said veteran psychiatrist
Dr. Jeffrey Sugar said
of Britney Spears.
"But there's a difference between being
psychological treatment and being forced to endure
Dr. Phil involuntarily."
Listening to Obama speak, it feels like he's carrying us all along with him to the mountaintop.
I've spent a lot of time in churches, reporting on faith in America. I'm used to being the atheist
crying in church. I can handle that. But despite my skepticism and my pragmatism, when
Obama speaks, it doesn't even feel shameful to be the reporter tearing up in the press stands.
When towards the end of his speech, Obama says, "I'm running because of what Dr. King
called the fierce urgency of now. I believe that there's such a thing as being too late. That hour
is almost upon us." I know this is cultivated. I know it's intentional. All the same, I practically
feel an "Amen" threatening to escape my throat. This is what it feels like. It's feels like the
opposite of every other candidate's campaign rally I've attended here. It feels like the ghost
of Otis Redding is about to rise up behind the podium and sing "A Change is Gonna Come,"
while we all about to join hands.
Instead of making Obama into Jesus and Hillary into the insane anti-Christ,
just realize that they're two Democrats trying to win an election against those Bush bastards?
A panicked and cash-short Clinton campaign is seriously considering giving up on
Nevada and South Carolina to save resources for the mega-primary on February 5.
At the same time, some top independent expenditure groups supporting Clinton
been exploring the creation of an anti-Obama "527 committee" that would
contributions from a few of Clinton's super-rich backers and from
a handful of unions to
finance television ads and direct mail designed to tarnish the Illinois Senator's image.
Clinton had looked fully competitive in Nevada, but Obama's victories (victories? Plural?)
have boosted his chances there.
The only Huffington I get to read are these pitiful "We Hate Hillary" slime attacks.
Is her whole site like that? Or is part of it honest?
Does Arianna need Hillary to make money the same way Rush needed Bill?
What would her site be like if you took away all the Hillary slurs?
Hey Bart, this Paul from Louisville KY.
I used to subscribe, but became a truck driver, victim of the Bush economy.
I really wanted to tell you that I appreciate you and your site, and have for years.
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