"First of all, you have to ask, 'Is history a reasonable basis on which to make a statement?'
We're not talking about opinion here. Chris Matthews to Joe Scarborough January 11, 2008
True enough. Chris Matthews did not support his argument with opinion. He flat out lied.
It wasn't a slip of the tongue. He gave it a lot of thought and preparation.
Matthews was defending some comments about Hillary Clinton that triggered widespread
revulsion, most notably from the women on The View:
"Let's not forget, and I'll be brutal, the reason she's a US Senator, the reason she's a
for president, the reason she may be a front runner, is that her husband
how she got to be a senator from New York. We forget that.
She didn't win it
on her merit,
she won because everybody felt, 'My God, this woman
stood up under humiliation, right?'
That's what happened! That's how it happened."
-- Matthews on Morning Joe January 9, 2008
Matthews' thesis is that "in the midst of all this humiliation," a phrase he couldn't repeat
often enough, Hillary's poise, toughness, and "heroic" campaigning caused people to feel
sympathy for her. But if you believe Life's a Campaign, then it's oxymoronic to say Hillary
shows toughness and poise and then say, "She didn't win it on her merit."
So how many falsehoods did you find? Here's my count:
Damn, that Chris matthews must be one lying scumbag if the Huffington Post,
of all places, is going to attack him for lying about Hillary.
"I know you hate the Clintons, despite the fact that, all his failings aside, he was
a good president who left the country in better shape than he found it. And he was
able to achieve that despite the persecution (what else can you call the impeachment?)
from the right. And Hilary does have her failings. But you don't put yourself in a
good light when you write: "And has any former president directly made fundraising
pitches for one candidate before? The brazenness of it is classically Clinton."
I mean, come on. It's his wife. Never before has an ex-president's wife run for President.
What do you expect him to do? Stay on the sidelines? And I don't remember hearing
similar criticism when #41 campaigned and fund-raised for his son. Campaigning for
your wife isn't "brazen." And your characterization of it as such shows how you really
have zero ability to be objective when it comes to anything related to the Clintons." -- a Daily Dish reader to - who else - Andrew Sullivan, Link
We need to find out who hates the Clintons the most.
You've got Arianna, you've got Andrew, Maureen Dowd, Robert Parry - who else?
We should try to get all of them in one place at one time so they can caucus
and elect one of their own as "The #1 Clinton Hater" so we can keep score.
Word for word, these people hate the Cliontons more than Rush and FOX News.
Rush and FOX both do other stories - it's not 100% Clinton Hate all the time, but when
was the last time you saw a column from Arianna, Dowd, Sullivan or Parry that didn't
attack the Clintons?
The political press, this past week, engaged in an epic game of Telephone:
hear the whisper,
spread the word. It started last Monday, when Hillary was
interviewed on Fox News and,
trying to highlight her experience working
within that labyrinth known as Washington,
noted that it took a president -
LBJ - to codify the work of MLK. Then, on Sunday, BET
Johnson introduced Clinton at a South Carolina campaign event, during
he compared Obama to Sidney Poitier’s Dr. John Prentice in
Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner
(“I want to be a reasonable, likeable
Sidney Poitier”) and alluded—glibly and unmistakably,
though the Clinton camp tried to spin it otherwise—to Obama’s past daliances with cocaine.
And now—despite last night’s truce between Obama and Clinton—the Democratic party
may be broken. Or so some in the press are saying. NPR news analyst Juan Williams (R-Whore)
talked about the possibility of the MLK-legacy dispute leading to a “fractured Democratic party”
on today’s Morning Edition; The Washington Post’s The Trail blog used the same term;
the Christian Science Monitor declared that, “in going negative with Obama, something else
is at stake: the next generation of Democrats”; Newsday, announcing yesterday evening’s
truce, noted the “growing signs” that the leading contenders’ fight for the Democratic
nomination is splintering their party; The Chicago Sun-Times columnist Lynn Sweet
headlined her “racial tension” analysis with: “They try to cool things off, but race talk
shakes up campaign.”
I'll have a lot to say about this in BCR 133, to be recorded Tomorrow, but just
the American whore press can't make any money with a
storyline that says,
"Smooth Sailing for the Democrats in 2008" so the need-every-dime sons of bitches
make shit up to sell papers.
The more people talk about recession and economic fears the more the
lean towards Hillary. That's because the Clinton campaign coined
"It's the Economy Stupid".
Not only did they make it the
issue, but the delivered on their promise of focusing
on the economy
like a laser beam. When the Clinton's left office the big issue was
we were going to spend the surplus. So now that the federal debt is
10 trillion dollars voters are less willing to take a chance
on risky candidates.
The more the economy becomes the issue the more
people want to go back
to the days when the surplus was the big "problem."
"They don't want to run against Obama.
They want to run against Hillary Clinton..."
-- Bill Maher, a good guy and one of the best, but he's wrong, wrong, wrong.
Sidebar: On his season premier Friday, he opened his show with a loooong string of
"Boo Hoo, why is Hillary always crying - can't she hack it?" jokes, which is kinda
because nothing is off limits to a stand-up comedian, BUT, as he was closing the show...
Bill got all weepy about sticking up for the writers during the strike.
He was heaping praise on his writers like they all donated a f-ing kidney to him,
again, which is fine, but if the big he-man Maher can't talk about his writers without
tearing up, why can't Hillary have a moment when she's been working 80-hour weeks,
going from town to town meeting thousands of struggling people?
Bill, either you're a big pussy or Hillary is tougher than you.
I live in Illinois and can honestly say we have the best Senator combo
of any state in the country (Durbin and Obama.) I am a strong supporter
of Senator Durbin who is arguably one of the few true "Statesmen" left
in the Senate. I agree with and supportt his positions and votes on most issues.
That being said I have been severely disappointed by his lack of any type of
aggressiveness in his roll as the Assistant Majority Leader of the Senate.
He has consistently capitulated to Harry Reid's pink tutu approach and while
I love the guy he just shouldn't be in that roll (neither should Reid but that's another story.)
Remember when Senator Durbin equated our torture to that of the Nazi's
(a valid observation) and days later was making a tearful apology on the Senate floor?
What besides Bush Crime Family's threats would cause this? I wouldn't even want
to speculate but when the end result is always the same (capitulation to the vilest
criminal gang of Executive Branch ass-wipes ever) what does it get us?
Senator Durbin is one of the primary backers and supporters of the Obama
campaign for President. When the Rovian fascist attacks start hitting the fan
in a big way come August and September will Senator Durbin be the one
helping to fight back and fend off that s**t storm of lies and hate?
My observations of the past seven years tell me no.
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What is bartcop radio and how does it work?
Do you listen to it online?
Bartcop Radio is essentially the page come to life.
There are 132 shows available to listen to online, most of them
are an hour long but some are two hours, a few are even four hours.
Plus, I can tell you what it's not - it's not the page read aloud.
We cover different subjects on the radio show.
BCR is available for the subscribers, those who contribute.
We'd like to do the show free, but then I'd have no income.
p.s. i keep telling bob wouldnt it be cool to be onstage behind a
Democratic candidate when they are speaking wearing a WPE shirt!!
Tthat is my goal but bob says they will never let me onstage with that on.
what do you think?
Maybe if i wear a rainbow wig with it? or pink for code pink
That's easy - just wear a thin shirt over the WPE shirt.
When the candidate starts speaking (that means the cameras are on)
slip your top-shirt off and then everyone will see your WPE shirt.
(That's how Cindy Sheehan got thrown out of the senate :)
p.p.s Iin my opinion Hillary clinton is just another politcan and I'm
sick to death of politicans.
I do find obama refreshingly different.
i will vote for whoever the Dems nominate and anyone of them
will be better than the worst president ever .........
this is the most excited i have ever seen my high school students
over a presidential election. Most favor obama then hillary.
Val, with all due respect, is "refreshingly different"
to vote for a person for president of this planet?
Every year the odds of a nuke going off in anger grow higher.
Do you want a new guy in charge when the fissionable shit hits the fan?
ya mean consortium news is not "the most important site on the web?"
....you flip flopper you,
Don Wick, Mayor of Monkeyville
Consortiumnews.com was, for many years, the most important site on the web.
Bob used to do serious reporting about subjects that really mattered, but then he fell
victim to the siren call of the Hillary-hating crowd, financially driven, I assume.
Once the Democrats pick a nominee, Bob will have a decision to make.
If we go for Obama, maybe Bob will reboot and refocus his energies on
that counts, like stopping the Bush bastards from postponing our elections.
I have a special gift for you, Monkey:
Send me your street address and I'll send you a bar of soap.
You can use that bar of soap to clean up your dirty ass and then go into town
to the library and check out The Complete Book of Bananas by William Lessard.
"As soon anybody from the Clinton campaign opens their mouth in a way
that could make it seem as if they were talking about race, it will be distorted.
The spin will be put on it that they are talking about race. The Obama campaign
is appealing to their base and their base is the African-American community.
What they are trying to do is move voters from Clinton by distorting things.
What have they got to lose?" -- Geraldine Ferraro, our VP in the '84 race, Link
Have you read the transcript?
Have you seen the entire clip of what Clinton said?
Excerpt: That ignorance was on prominent display after New Hampshire, as analysts
groped to explain the primary results and came up with explanations that were
as offensive as they were phantasmagorial. One theory, admittedly far-fetched
but avidly promulgated, held that Clinton's unexpected surge of support came
from lower-class voters who were secretly (that is, un-poll-ably) racist. Some
pundits acknowledged that there might be a gender dynamic at work but allowed
for only one possibility: Female voters were easily manipulated saps who'd let
a few girl tears muddle their political sense. Pundits debated whether Clinton's
tears were "real" or "manufactured" -- that is, whether she was some weak
sob sister who couldn't hack the rough-and-tumble of a man's world, or just a
power-grabbing witch who would do anything to hang on to her broomstick.
Note: There were no tears. They fabricated that "fact" like they fabricate everything.
"Obama is (now) putting out a fire that *he* started. It's the Obama campaign
that sought to make an issue of this. Why is it that when Hillary raises the notion
of sexism she's painted as "playing the gender card" but when Obama raises the
notion of racism, the media all follow his lead?" -- Lee at politico.com, Link
Lee, they do that because they want Obama to flounder against the GOP's slime machine.
The media has been helping the right wing select the Democratic candidate for president
since Jimmy Carter, if not longer. I only have first hand knowledge of it going back to Carter.
They usually promote the Democrat that the Republicans can most easily beat while destroying
all Democratic opposition. Or, in the case of Carter, if they know that the Republicans can’t win,
they promote the Democrat that can be trusted not to investigate their crimes or otherwise disrupt
their criminal enterprises. Often the same Democrat fits both descriptions.
In the current election, they want to run against Obama because they think they can beat him.
I’m sure they are right. Just because the media whores are supporting him now, if he gets the
nomination, they will chew him up like Rush with a bottle of hillbilly heroin.
I remember how in 1992, the media attached Tom Harkin as being a communist, without any
evidence, right out of the gate. They drove him out of the primary faster than they did Muskie,
because Harkin had called for investigations into Bush/CIA drug smuggling. We never heard
about Jennifer Flowers until Clinton had the nomination locked up.
The media is obviously helping Obama get the Nomination.
No way in hell are they going to help him get elected.
The American whore media serves their Republican masters.
How else could they consolidate and get a tax cut?
I don't know who has disappointed me more, you or Bill Clinton.
His public scolding of us for having hope really left me cold.
That's crazier than President Dornan.
Nobody is against hope, you just can't win knife fights with hope.
Have you forgotten how hated Bill and Hill were back in the 90's?
The Republicans hated them because they lost to them every time.
The voters loved Bill and would elect him again. Bill left with an
approval Bush would kill for - wait, I take that back because he might.
She might get one repub to vote for her, but I'm not sure who that might be.
But the lefties say she's Cheney's clone.
Why would the right refuse to vote for Cheney's clone?
Excerpt: Jim Goodnow and his bus, the Yellow Rose, both have suffered a terrible tragedy.
Jim has been providing transportation to Iraq Veterans Against the War for their
various tours and other activities. Last night, Jim escaped a fire of suspicious origins
that destroyed the bus. Luckily Jim is all right.
Jim pulled into a South Jersey Truck Stop, to catch a 3 or 4 hour nap. Jim saw some
suspicious activity outside the bus, and about 20 minutes later, the entire engine
compartment, and back of the bus was engulfed in flames.
This is how Fascist pigs "debate" - with firebombs and ammonium nitrate.
They have to resort to violence because their ideas are such vile shit.
Hannity with a hooker in Nevada.
Think his wife knows?
"Iran is today the world's leading state sponsor of terror."
-- President Feces for Brains, Link
Butt Monkey, have you looked in a mirror, lately?
Did you know Bush's approval ratings in England, Germany, Spain,
France and Italy are all under 9 percent?
The world hates us, Bunnypants, and it's because they hate you.
Iran hasn't invaded anybody this century, but you have invaded
Afghanistan, Iraq, you're trying toi invade Iran today and you
did your nest to overthrow the l;egally elected government in
Venezuela because they have oil.
How can the giggline rapist, torturer murderer call another country "terrorist?"
Obama's talk about hope and change has left me a little suspicious...platitudes are not policy.
Remember that Bush initially ran as the "Compassionate Conservative" and "the Uniter."
If you want to know what Obama stands for, just look at the people behind him.
Most noteworthy is the influence of Zbigniew Brzezinski, Carter's National Security Advisor.
Yesterday, we quoted Zbigniew's daughter as saying Jonah Goldberg was "great,"
after he said liberalism and Fascism had similar DNA.
Brzezinski doesn't seem to be mentioned on Obama's website, but if you do a little digging,
you'll find that his fingerprints are all over Obama's foreign policy. We should remember that
Brzezinski's chief gift to the world thus far was to work with Pakistan's Intelligence Services
in order to help create the Taliban so that the hated Soviets could be prodded into invading
Afghanistan, thus experiencing their own version of Vietnam.
John Kerry - Just Go Away He thinks we can't remember 2004
Kerry appeared on ABC's 'This Whore" with Judas Maximus, where he trumpeted
Obama as the man who should be president. Kerry posited that Obama would be a
transformational president who wouldn't fall prey to swiftboaters. Kerry promised to
FIGHT to ensure that NO Democratic candidate is swiftboated in 2008. He swore that
during his own candidacy in 2004, he fought back quickly and adequately against his
swiftboat accusers with a "counter press conference" immediately after the assaults began.
Kerry said his defense was consistently strong, but not carried by media due to a lack of funds.
This is NOT true!!! John Kerry didn't fight back during his campaign.
Nor did he challenge the highly questionable results of the election!!
Obama could be a transitional president - if he can get elected.
If Kerry couldn't stop the swiftboaters, how can he say Obama will?
Have we ever seen Obama in a tough fight?
Kerry refused to fight in 2004, that's why he lost. Lack of funds? Blow me, John. When the campaign was OVER
you still had what, $16 million that YOU CHOSE not to spend.
Nobody likes a liar, John, so just go away.
Obama is wrong if he thinks you helkped him with your endorsement.
Grainy video of plastic speed boats romping through the water are
Who shot it? When? Where? Why aren't the other navy
ships in the clip?
Where are images of the ships rails, window frames,
sailors observing, etc.?
Where's the audio of ship noises, the crackling
radio traffic, the sailors shouting WTF?
I've seen better UFO footage.
Greg, I mentioned that when I talked about it for Bartcop Radio.
Click Here for a free snippet of my reaction to this "provocation"
I like Barack Obama. The Clintons, not so much. But the Clintons are right and Obama is wrong.
However poorly the Clintons or their minions may have chosen their words, does anyone seriously
believe the Clintons are racists? Anyone? Anyone? Of course not.
And this points to the real reason Obama's candidacy is a fairy tale, and it has nothing to do with
being black or opposing the war. Obama's whole campaign is based on some of the most noble
and most inspiring sentiments in political life: hope, togetherness, bipartisanship. As he proclaimed
last February at a DNC meeting: "There are those who don't believe in talking about hope. They say,
'Well, we want specifics; we want details; and we want white papers; we want plans.' We've had a
lot of plans, Democrats. What we've had is a shortage of hope. And over the next year, over the
next two years, that will be my call to you."
He's stayed true to that pledge. Not only does he talk about hope -- a lot -- he talks about the
importance of talking about hope. He talks about how he hopes to talk more about talking
about the importance of talking about hope.
He touts unity the same way. If we all buy into his "message of hope," he explains, then everybody
-- blacks and whites, men and women, Republicans and Democrats, lions and gnus, bears and park
rangers, Superman and Lex Luthor -- will be united!
Maybe if I run this enough times, I can get LBJ Jr or his
rusted-closed BattleAx mother to sue me - wouldn't that be a kick?
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