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Weekend-Monday  Nov 22-24,  2008  Vol 2251 - Fears subside 

Quote of the Day

"I've worked hard on a lot of fronts. 
  America is more secure now than it was. 
  I have given it my all." 
      -- Der Fuhrer, talking about his monthlong 
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In Today's Tequila Treehouse...
Arrow Trust Obama on Clinton 
Arrow Philosophy Without a Party HOT
Arrow Pundits & Music Critics HOT
Arrow Top 5: Political Blunders
Arrow Obama's splendid little deal 
Arrow Obama, honeymoon killer? HOT
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"I think he's impatient. He doesn't like homework. And homework means reading or 
  getting briefed or having a debate. And part of the presidency, part of governing, 
  particularly in this area, is homework, homework, homework." 
      -- Bob Woodward, closer to Dubya than any other media whore   Link

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Trust Obama on Clinton
  by Joan Walsh


I find myself in a very strange position this week. When the world was overtaken by Obamamania last year, 
I was a late swooner. Some may recall that I even occasionally criticized him. So why am I mainly happy with 
the way Obama's handled the presidential transition, when so many early swooners, especially in the blogosphere 
and mainstream media, are so critical?

Since his most controversial move is considering Hillary for secretary of state, it's clear my respect for 
Clinton has a lot to do with it...

If he believes she can contribute to his foreign policy, but most important, carry it out; that she can represent 
him well and inform his worldview; that she can improve our standing abroad, well, then, I believe she can, too. 
This choice is not a popularity contest; it's all about the person the president believes can best represent his 
foreign policy and America's interests in the world. He has to deeply trust the man or woman in that role.

Many of Obama's supporters are ready to throw him under a bus for considering Hillary.
Why do so many of Obama's fans not trust his judgment?

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Consciousness of a Conservative:
 A Philosophy Without a Party - by Ted Rall


Conservatives think the election results prove that conservatism is in trouble. Actually, conservatism is fine. 
It's the Republican Party that's in trouble...In the United States, conservatism is a philosophy without a party...

For the sake of my long-suffering conservative friends as well as the country, it's time to unravel the 
conflation of conservatism and the Republican Party.

Why do I care? Simple: America needs conservatives--real conservatives. Deficit hawks, America Firsters 
and get-that-dang-guvmint-outta-my-bizness types are essential watchdogs of fiscal responsibility and 
personal freedom. Moreover, ideological diversity sparks intellectual innovation.

Ted's right.
If Republicans were actually conservatives, their party would be more successful.

But the party of smaller government was hijacked by the religio-crazies and the Neo-Cons.

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 Subject: Clinton haters

Bart, I think that everyone who hates the Clintons should be required 
to give back all the money they made during the '90's. It's that simple.
 Anne on Cape Cod

Good point - Clinton tripled the stock market and many Democrats
have nothing good to say about the best administration of our lifetime.

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"I regret it. I mean, you know, Iím going forward. You can take 
  from the word 'regret' what you will. I wish I had not said some 
  of the things Iíve said. But again, we all do it." 
    -- Kissyface, rationalizing his backstabbing,  Link

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From Pundits to Music Critics
 The Vatican has an opinion on everything


Vatican media are praising the Beatles' musical legacy and sounding philosophical about John Lennon's 
boast that the British band was more popular than Jesus.

The newspaper as well as Vatican Radio last week noted the 40th anniversary of the Beatles' "White Album."
It said the album demonstrated how creative the Beatles were, compared with what it called the "standardized, 
stereotypical" songs being produced today.

Hey, shouldn't you guys be busy scaring the sick and the old?
Don't you have some money to swindle or some child encounters to cover up?

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"I would put the record of this administration up against any American 
  administration or any other government around the world in terms of 
  promoting universal human rights and pushing for human rights." 
     -- State Dept. spokesperson Sean McCormack, talking about the Bush bastards 
         who promoted the policies of rape, kidnapping, torture and murder   Link

 If what they did was decent and honorable, why will they all need pardons?

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 Subject: Big 3

Why is everyone talking of the so called Big 3 as though it's just some big f-king empty building
with just a few CEO's sitting in it? The U.S. auto industry involves hundreds of thousands of
active employees and even more retired employees.

And fuck Toyota, they don't have nearly the number of people working here in the U.S. as that
writer thinks, and they don't have to worry, at least yet, about retirees. Hell, if they don't have
retirement plans like the Big 3 and  employees count on 401(K)s they never will have to!!
And where the fuck do you think Toyota's profits go??

If you don't think it affects you...well if Ford goes belly-up and files bankruptcy I could lose 40%
of my pension that I now live on...that's if the Federal Pension Guaranty program don't go broke
under the burden...I wouldn't be able keep subscribing to you.

And this crap about the Big 3 not making vehicles that Americans want...
they sell more vehicles total than all the foreign manufacturers combined.
 Ronald H

Ron, I understand your frustration but *I* didn't cause Detroit's troubles.

My position is this: The GOP takes bribes from the health care industry
to make health care affordable only for people with big money.  It shouldn't cost
your life savings if someone spends a few days in the hospital - but it does.

Republican health care bribes is the primary reason why Detroit can't compete.
The greedy Republicans are the enemy here - we should aim our fire at them.

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Top 5: Political Blunders

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A splendid little deal
 by PM Carpenter


Hillary's first major policy charge -- healthcare -- rapidly disintegrated into such epic drama
that management schools will study it for decades as a paradigm of cautionary tales.

That sentence uses a lot of words but it says absolutely nothing.  I could say,
"PM Carpenter's mindless rants rapidly disintegrate into such epic drama that
creative writing schools will study it for decades as a paradigm of cautionary tales,"
but what would that sentence mean?

Then, Hillary's rise to the Senate was a byproduct of Ö drama.

Actually, the voters of New York decided they liked her better than the Republicans
she ran against - it's called democracy.

Then, her subsequent fall from greater potential power was the result of Ö drama.

Actually, the voters decided they liked Obama better - what's your problem with democracy?
I could say, "PM Carpenter's mindless rants are a byproduct of ...drama," but what would that mean?
I could say, "PM Carpenter's mindless rants are a result of ...drama," but what would that mean?
I try to only type sentences that have some meaning to them.

Yet the Obama transitioners anticipated -- what? -- that Clintonian drama would suddenly be a thing of the past?

Maybe the "Clinton drama" is in the eye of the writer.
Why do dozens or hundreds of pundits make a living off discussing "Clinton drama?"
Without that fabulous "Clinton drama" to write about, what would their lives be like?
What would occupy their minute-by-minute thoughts without "Clinton drama" guiding them?

Could it be that PM Carpenter hates the Clintons more than he likes Obama?

What's the difference between PM Carpenter and Dick Morris?

...the very last thing a president-elect wants to do is darken the glow with controversy.
Especially self-inflicted controversy.
But that's what Team Obama did when it suggested to Hillary a highchair in the cabinet.

Oh, so Barack Obama didn't make that decision?
It was "Team Obama" who made the decision, not the President-Elect?
Who are these mystery people making Obama's decisions for him - I'd like to know.

Why is PM Carpenter and, to a lesser degree, Buzzflash attacking Obama's decision-making?
So far, *I* think he's doing great and *I* intend to back this Democratic president.

I wish all Democrats would, ...but we tend to knife our best in the back.

Interesting...  The comments that came in, in order, were:
Hillary is a GREAT choice!
Hillary is a good choice for Sec of State!
no drama Obama?
On The Right Track
Take heart: there could be alot more upside potential, and depth, to an HRC as Secretary-State nomination,
As usual, rationalize and spin anyway you want - whatever it takes to make you feel better.  It's obvious that
   Obama's choice of Hillary as SOS has kicked your blood pressure up several notches, which means, of course ...... was the right decision.

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"At this point Lieberman must be wondering just what kind of crap he has to pull in order to 
  get kicked out of this namby-pamby party. The guy's had a nice long political life and he might 
  as well start trying to have a little fun, right? Joe, we want to watch this go down. It's time to do 
  all you can to see how far you can push these fools...Enough of this betrayal crap. Lieberman 
  should literally take a knife and drive it into the back of a Democratic Senator. When the Senator 
  falls to the ground at Lieberman's feet, Joe should shout "I did this! I stabbed this Senator in 
  the back! Me! Joe Lieberman!" The Democrats will hastily jump from their seats and name 
  Lieberman the new Senate Majority Leader." 
     --  Bob Powers, not happy about Obama forgiving Kissyface,  Link

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Harvard and Yale
Are they still considered good schools?

George W Bush, the stupidest president ever, obtained degrees from both universities.
The evidence suggests that any fool with money can buy a degree from Harvard and Yale.

If your Daddy is a big shot and if he has a big wallet and important friends,
you get a degree from Harvard and Yale.  It's that simple.

How can these schools maintain their reputation or integrity knowing Bush is "proof"
of how "high" the standards are at these once-respected halls of learning?

While we're on the subject - why is the University of Idaho giving out diplomas
to swimsuit models who don't know that Africa is a continent, not a country?

Lucky for George W. Bush that we all met Sarah Palin while he was still president.
Bush was a multi-"Stupidest politician in history" winner, but then Sarah came along
and showed us what real stupidity was.

Did you see that video of Palin on Hardballs Friday?
Palin was at some photo shoot in Alaska where she "pardoned" a turkey.

Afterwards, she did an interview with a local TV station and behind her,
a man is shoving live, gobbling turkeys into a funnel where they were then decapitated.
The headless turkeys were then seen flapping and kicking their little legs in the air.

It looked like Pol Pot doing an interview while his men chopped up kids.
Tweedy kept screaming, "Oh no, it's Marie Antonette all over again."
as tho that was some kinf of clever comment.

And the whole time, Palin is chattering on, oblivious to the carnage.

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 Subject: Vince Foster

Bart, last issue, Roland Poche said that the media did not kill Vince Foster.
Vince Foster, on the other hand, said in his suicide note that he was driven
to kill himself by the Wall Street Journal -- in other words, the media did kill Vince Foster.

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"I'm thinking about killing Michael Moore, and I'm wondering if I could kill him myself, 
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  looking me in the eye, you know, and I could just be choking the life out--is this wrong?"
     -- Glenn Beck, CNN's pet Fascist dog,    Link

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 Subject: Guns

A gun in your home is 22 times more likely to shot you or someone you know,
than some intruder or bad guy...

That might be true for a gun in some homes, but not in my home.
Of course, I'm a sane adult with no kids and a stable marriage.
The only one getting shot is some scumbag trying to get inside my house.

Truly the 2nd amendment has it`s merits, but in the hands of some licensed gun owners,
firearms treaten all of our safety, not just you NRA membas require protection....
ask the student body of Vir. Tech.

What if the VT shooter drove a car into a crowd and killed 35 people?
Would you want to ban cars?

How often have you needed your firearm to defend your family,
or too consider suicide for endorsing the Sen from N.Y .;;;;

ha ha

To answer your question - twice I've had to pick up my Glock because of
an unexplained noise that turned out not to be a home invading scumbag.
When you think your life might be in danger,
there's nothing more comforting than a Baby Glock in your hand.

there are too many guns tho dude, you're not overthrowin the gov with deer rifles and pistollas ..
you  still one of my political gurus, Bart.......and still recommend  your page to some.

Stay strong, seeeker of wisdomn and truth.
 Don Wick   (Bitter in Pennsylvania)

I don't own guns to overthrow the government.
If scumbags stay outside my house, my guns will only be fired at the practice range.

...but what to you do when you wake up to breaking glass?

If you're lucky enough to be white and live in a good neighborhood where the police don't mind
driving at night and your phone works and the dispatcher not only answers the phone but does her
job in a timely and efficient manner and a dedicated patrol cop gets the call and he's nearby and
maybe the guy who broke the glass is slow or injured himself and when the cop shows up, if he
doesn't mistakenly shoot you - you should be OK.

If luck doesn't go your way, you can always pray.

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"Youíre living in a world that no longer exists. I, along with millions of Americans, clearly see 
  the world the way it as - and we embrace what it can be. You, on the other hand, seem incapable 
  of looking for new ideas or moving beyond what worked in the past...Obama's election is a 
  movement of the people that you most fear. Itís a movement of progress - and your words on 
  FOX News only show how truly desperate you are to maintain control of a world that is changing
  before your very eyes." 
     -- Candace Gingrich, writing to her brother Newt,    Link

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 Subject: electric cars

Hi Bart,

The reason we don't have electric cars is simple, about half the profit in selling a car comes from
selling parts and service down the road.  Tell me, how many electric motors have YOU had to have
repaired in your life?  Burning out an electric motor that's of a proper size for the job it is doing is an
uncommon event, much less common than repairing an internal combustion engine.  Profits would drop
like a brick in an electric car world.

Years ago, after the first oil crisis, Popular Mechanics started running plans for electric and hybrid cars.
They were designed to have a steel roll cage around the occupants, then everything else was easily
replacable plastic and foam panels.  They claimed actual test mileage as high as 200mpg for the hybrid types.

Some of those plans (not all by any means) are still around.  And the original plans were done
with early 80's technology.  Things have changed a bit since then.

This idea that "nobody can build a 200mpg car" is simply false.  It's been done.  Hundreds of people
have built their own high mileage vehicles, or simply gone to electric cars they built themselves.
Others let professionals convert their cars to electric.

That lady keeps better track than I do.  LOL.

And then there is the Aptera.

And the Triac.

Kind of funny, with all this floating around out there, somehow the Big Three (soon to become the Big Zero)
can't seem to get it together and build an economical cheap electric car that will last at least 7 years without
falling apart.  One would almost think they consider their products as disposable items like razor blades,
that should wear out quickly and be replaced with a newer model, never mind what it does to your budget.
And of course every car has to be packed to the gills with luxury items that most of us neither want
nor can afford - so they have to become "standard".

Given the legal ramifications of "onstar", I've already said that any vehicle I buy that comes with that
as a standard will have some wires cut as soon as I can get my hands on a pair of pliers.

And that's the way it is.  I'd be for a loan to the car companies, but they'd have to have
a complete management turnover first, and that doesn't appear likely at this point.

Luck to you Bart,

I agree with lots of that, but what do you have against Onstar?
It works, I've used it on rentals and wish I could put it in my car.

It's like insurance - you hope you never have to use it
but having it that one time when you need it might save your family.

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Obama, honeymoon killer?


One of the first things Obama did after winning the election two weeks ago was put an old-school 
political brawler in charge of his White House. Next, he saved Kissyface. Then, he met with McCain, 
and asked Hillary to run his State Department. For good measure, he's also apparently weighing whether 
to keep George W. Bush's Defense secretary, Robert Gates, on at the Pentagon.

This is the guy Republicans called a socialist, maybe a Marxist, and National Journal said was the most 
liberal member of the U.S. Senate? McCain aides were saying on Election Night that their own polling 
showed 60 percent of the country thought Obama was a liberal (and many voted for him anyway). 
Barely two weeks into the transition, that number might already be dropping fast."

Expectations for Obama were so high, any slice of reality has his hardcore fans doubting him.
Democrats should give the guy a chance before we stab him in the back.

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 Subject: Maybe the Big 3 should be the big 1

With cars lasting longer than they used to and the economy in a recession 
I question if there is enough of a market to keep all three of the "Big 3" automakers in business. 

Maybe instead of having all 3 burning through taxpayer money we should let them start to fold 
and give a few billion to the last one standing. If GM and Chrysler, who are considered the weakest, 
were to fold, Ford and other US automakers who employ Americans in the south would get a boost. 
I just don't see where we can afford to pay Detroit to make cars that no one is going to buy.

Marc Perkel
San Bruno, CA.

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"Officials in Missouri have finally finished counting the and they say McCain won that state. 
  As a result, Sarah Palin now thinks she's the Vice President of Missouri."
      -- Conan.

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 Subject: nobody reads the side links? 

Whadda mean nobody!  I read the article.  It's interesting, but contains some misconceptions. 
I read those side links about a third of the time, so either your counter didn't work or you're exaggerating. 
Naah, you wouldn't exaggerate, would you?
 Jimm in Texas

We use a Google counter - I assume that's accurate enough.
I've found that liberals have quite a challenge with links and scrolling.

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Obama and the Clinton Team - Winners


Obama has also drawn criticism from the left and the right for turning to former members of the
Clinton Administration for considerable help in his transition and during the early stages of his administration. 
But the reason Obama is doing this is simple: he's not dumb. Why wouldn't he draw from what was, arguably, 
among the most successful peace-and-prosperity presidencies in American history - one which found Bill Clinton 
leaving office with an over-60 percent approval rating? Barack would have to be a fool not to tap into that gold mine.

Who did the Obama fans think he was going to hire?
Why not hire from the best administration of our lifetime?

Some people would rather see Obama fail than see a Clinton assist him.

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 Subject: Electric car and Turbine car

There were turbine engine Chrysler prototypes at the 1964 World's Fair . Three of them that I know of. 
The engine had one moving part (the turbine wheel) and one ,either spark plug ,or glow plug or similar ignitor. 
They would drive one continously,around the Chrysler pavillion which had a (of course) futurific design and a 
roadway that snaked aroound the building. I went to that fair four times and knew about these cars early from 
Popular Science,a great mag at that time. 

There was a "spielmaster" who gave a talk about the car. One part of his talk said that if you were late for work 
and low on gas you could put your alcohol based shaving lotion in and drive!  Many combustible(and cheap) fluids 
would work. They put the engine in their convertible model but with "futuried" body customizing and in the new 
copper color. guess I tipped my hand as a car lover. 

Where are these cars now and how much ( like the electric ones)
would they have improved by now with the technology of today?
 Jim Clark

It would seem that Detroit has decided not to build and sell fuel-efficient cars.
Maybe we should make it illegal for greedy oil bastards to own car-manufacturer stock?

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 Subject: public enemy number one

Bart, are you aware that there are about 198,000 corporate or kill-for-hire military personnel in Iraq, 
versus 148 thousand regular US military personnel.   Blackwater being the largest.  What do you suppose 
these blood thristy goons are going to do when Obama starts to have us leave Iraq? 

I worry when I listen to C-Span in the morning and listen to all the looney white trash, who short of 
threatening Obama's life spread there hate over the boob tube, thus giving the idiot boobs fuel for more 
goofy unholy thoughts. I had to change the channel this morning from C-Span to a Bugs Bunny cartoon 
because I couldn't take any longer. I need more Ever Clear. 

PS: Would 198,000 goons be able to control the US population in case of a civilian uprising? 
Remember these festering puss bags have no souls.  New Orleans found that out. 

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Support Nadler Resolution on Bush Pardons


Dear Representative,

I urge you to co-sponsor Rep. Jerrold Nadler's H.Res. 1531 urging President Bush not to pardon 
senior members of his administration for crimes authorized by the President - and to investigate those 
crimes both in the House and the Justice Department, and prosecute if warranted. 

If they warned him up-front not to do this it might have an impact
but when have the Democrats ever used their heads and thought about the future?

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