"Those torture memoes prove what a bunch of
pushovers we Americans are. Al Qaeda kidnaps Americans, tortures them, then decapitates them
on TV. We deprive captives of sleep, push them into walls and put harmless caterpillars that we say are
poisonous in their cells. Then we're the ones who are condemned as the worst human-rights violators
on the planet."
-- The New York Whore Post, Link
What every Republican is thinking, but not saying, is this;
"They're just sand niggers, they're not like
us good, white God-fearing Americans. It's OK to torture sand niggers - that's why God made
them dark so we'd know who was OK to torture and who wasn't."
Hey Jesus, tell them torture is wrong - go ahead.
What? You're in too much pain to speak? Really?
Rush Limbaugh says, 'Nobody ever died
from torture," so do us a favor and stop pretending it hurts, OK?
Excerpt: Levi Johnston, a 19-year-old with a perhaps undeserved
reputation as a backwoods simpleton, has done what Obama and Biden
and sneering liberals and cringing conservatives
couldn’t: He has killed off Sarah Palin as a serious contender for the
presidential nomination. And I have to say, this
depresses the hell out of me.
ha ha If Palin is the best your side has, depression
is the least of your troubles.
By now everyone knows about Johnston’s on-again,
off-again romance with Palin’s daughter Bristol. During the campaign, the
Bristol was pregnant with Johnston’s child sparked
a minor culture war, with pro-lifers rallying to the Palin family’s defense
while a coalition
of censorious snobs from the left and the right
blasted Bristol for her irresponsibility. Back then, the official line
from the Palins was that Levi
and Bristol were getting married (But
only the idiots bought that super-lame promise of the future. Why didn't
they fly to Vegas the day after the world found out she was
preggers? The answer? They were never getting married - ever)
had an elaborate finger tattoo to prove it. At
the time, I found the Bristol-Levi story incredibly affecting. Here were
two kids who were
probably in over their heads, but they were trying
to make it work. And here is this big, sprawling, weird, wonderful American
had their backs during this wrenching time. Palin
came across as a different kind of Republican, and her slightly messy life
seemed to prove it.
Since returning to Alaska, one can’t help but
get the impression that Palin is a clownish, vindictive amateur.
Hey, if this is how the GOP sees Palin now, let's have more articles
Polls show Palin in the lead for 2012 - I'm looking forward to a 40-state
landslide Democratic victory.
I say this facetiously, but, does this now
mean that RAPE is legal?
If one were to commit a rape, I would think that
was to relieve themselves or gain some pleasure
Who can say that there INTENT was to HARM the
Slipperiest slope I've seen in a long time. Defense
Lawyers dream, most crimes
would be forgiven if this scenario were universal.
Obama told us that no-one was
above the Law, and then he helps to shield the
previous Administration from that Law.
Disappointing is mild.
"We've got all these foreclosures, we've got
all these people laid off. We should be behind Obama 110 percent, hoping he's successful. And I just
thought it was unpatriotic and basically bullshit for Rush Limbaugh and
that idiot Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck and
all those idiots to not root for this guy."
-- Charles Barkley, and if you disagree, walk up and explain it to
Excerpt: Over the past four years I’ve asked police officers
throughout the U.S. (and in Canada) two questions.
When’s the last time you had to fight someone
under the influence of marijuana? (Pot only, not
pot plus a six-pack or a fifth of tequila.) My
colleagues pause, they reflect.
Their eyes widen as they realize that in their
five or fifteen or thirty years
on the job they have never had
to fight a marijuana user.
I then ask: When’s the last time you had to
fight a drunk? They look at their watches.
It's maddening that all the evidence in the world - and they refuse
to change their minds.
God hates pot,
he told us himself - with his own voice,
and nobody wants to piss off God.
Excerpt: Washington needs to allow auto makers to meet
the fuel economy standards with any mix of autos made in domestic or overseas
Under the nonsensical "two fleet" rule that now
applies, manufacturers meet the standards separately with their "domestically"
"nondomestically" produced fleets. What does
this have to do with making sure U.S. consumers get good mileage?
It's a naked handout to the UAW at the expense
of the companies and their customers.
How dumb is the two-fleet rule? Nissan, in a petition
for its removal, points out foreign brands may actually minimize the domestic
content in their U.S. cars so they can continue
to count as "nondomestic."
How dumb is the rule? Chrysler might not be unraveling
today if not for the two-fleet rule, the real genesis of the Hail Marys
throwing in all directions to find an electric
car or a small-car partner or to merge with GM. Chrysler has a perfectly
business making trucks, minivans, muscle cars
and Jeeps -- doomed only by the lack of enough small, fuel-efficient cars
to roll out
of a UAW factory with a Chrysler emblem slapped
They say the pirates have gotten over $200M
just this year.
That's over $220M, Bartcop!
"So lemme get this straight. Obama doesn’t
want to go after those who actually performed the torture because they were just acting on the
advice of legal counsel. And those who drafted the legal memos authorizing the torture aren’t accountable,
either. And those who devised the policies aren’t accountable. So who the fuck is?"
-- misscoleopteramolly, who asks a great question.
How can nobody be responsible for America going torture rogue?
I've been a long-time reader, but I don't have
a dog in this fight.
GreatKingRat wanted to know why you have such
a disdain for Tiger Woods and your response was to ask,
"Has Tiger used any of his power to help those
without his talent?"
In a word, "yes," but you can look up his
philanthropy online yourself.
That was poorly worded on my part. If Tiger gave
some charity 75 cents, he could be called "a benefactor."
The big point, with all his hundreds of millions
of dollars and all his fame and his powerful bully pulpit, he's not done
a lot for Blacks, Asians, minorities, the poor,
women - you name the group and Tiger's decided not to get involved.
I recall your animosity was due to his failure
to aggressively support the acceptance of women to Augusta National.
Well sure, that's one in a long list of causes
he decided to ignore.
When greatness is "thrust upon one," isn't it
one's duty to give something back?
I don't know why Tiger bowed out of the controversy,
but it was and is his right to pick and choose which, if any,
political battles he wishes to fight. I'm
not saying that he's right and you're wrong (personally, I sided with Martha
in 2005). I just wanted to remind you where
the spat originated.
Dude, I've disliked Mr. Perfect at least going
back to 2001.
Tulsa was Pothole Central for years and years
but when we got the US Open or some big tourney in 2001,
the city decided to pave all the roads because
it wouldn't be right for Mr Perfect to be subjected to potholes.
Swear to Koresh, for 2-3 years Tulsa had thousands
of orange traffic cones on every North-South street.
But what really pissed me off was the local Tiger-worshipping
sports handjobs declared,
"Tiger is soooo going to win, should we even
bother to hold the tournament in the first place?" THAT pissed me off and that's when the BartCop
Hex was born and Eldrick
got his ass handed to him.
But it seems to me that if you're always short-putting
then you must be pretty good at getting close to the pin in the first place.
A friend you never met...
Rick in Stockbridge, GA
Rick, that was a joke. Sometimes while playing
pool, you'll hear,
"Well sure, it's easy to win when every shot
Subject: Tiger Woo
Bart, didn't your *original* beef with Eldrick
have something to do with him shunning
Clinton's invitation to the Whit House or something?
-- here it is:
Excerpt: Eldrick turned down an offer from President Clinton
to attend a ceremony in honour of the late Jackie Robinson.
Tiger offered no explanation for what must go
down as the mother of all snubs though his agent strained credulity
when he said that Tiger "found it a little curious
that he wasn't important enough to be with the President until he won the
That's it, remember, Bart?
Right - Tiger didn't seem to grasp the idea that the winner goes
to the White House.
I guess Tiger considers himself "special" before the tournament
starts, but that's not how it works.
Snubbing his president and snubbing the man who broke the race barrier
in baseball were bad PR moves.
If it wasn't for brave men like Jackie Robinson, Tiger might only be
allowed at Augusta as a caddy
and he seems to not understand that. With all his hundreds of
millions of dollars, Tiger might break off
a few bucks and hire a PR person who could steer him away from such
Oh, and for a man who has kids for fans, have you ever heard such a
Obama has backed away from prosecuting the torturers
at the CIA because he has to.
It is political. The CIA is a valuable
They can be very belligerent toward Obama and
reticent to help him.
They may cooperate, but they can make it a pain
in the ass for Obama to get their help.
That could be considered treasonous, but what
recourse would he have? Fire the CIA? Clean house?
He has opened the door and now it is possible
for someone else, who doesn’t depend on the CIA
for security and intel, to look into prosecuting.
At the very least, it is now out in the open, showing the
nation and the world what a sick bunch of bastards
the previous administration was.
I get that and I agree.
I'd be happy for seeing those who gave the orders face justice, but
that'll never happen.
Unlike the helpless, pitifull, backstabbing Democrats, the Republicans
would NEVER let their man go on trial - ever.
Excerpt: Bush torture memos provide new insight into claims
that they used insects to torture the young children of Khalid Mohammed.
In the memos, Bush's White House Office of Legal
Counsel offered its endorsement of CIA methods that involved insect,
confined box with detainees. Jay S. Bybee, then-director
of the OLC, wrote that insects could be used to capitalize on detainees’
The memo was dated Aug. 1, 2002. Mohammed’s
kids were captured and held in Pakistan the following month.
While an additional memo released Thursday claims
that the torture with insects technique was never utilized by the CIA,
the allegations regarding the children would
have transpired when the method was authorized by the Bush bastards.
At a military tribunal in 2007, the father of
a Guantanamo detainee said Pakistani guards said American interrogators
used ants to coerce the children of Khalid
Mohammed into revealing their father’s whereabouts.
> But, as always, I have to remember the important
question, "Compared to who?" > However bad the torturing was, it has stopped. > Things are certainly better than they were
under torturer Fuhrer Bush.
How about "compared to evil george"? After
all, how do we know the torturing has stopped? Obama said so?
I choose to believe Obama when he says 'the torture
Evil george said we didn't torture, as well, even
though we did.
Obama's stance on the subject qualifies as "silence"
and silence is tacit approval.
Failure to prosecute means the very best Obama
can say is that America doesn't torture...for now.
But - "looking forward" - some future administration
can now use dubya's "precedents" to resume at will.
Now the argument is being converted into "should
we prosecute the CIA torturers" and it SHOULD be
"should we prosecute those responsible for the
policies". You cut off the head to kill the snake.
Obama won't prosecute the bushies responsible
for torture, he supports the illegal wire-taps,
arguing the king can't be sued, and he's still
trying, apparently, to pick and choose who gets their day
in court and who's day would be a threat to "national
That's not change I can believe in.
It's "no-change I'd damn well better accept!"
Mark in Santa Rosa
Mark, the alternative is to say, "Bush and
Obama are the same," and I can't go there.
For all we know, Obama's plan is to let that dishrag Leahy hold hearings.
Then, maybe when the facts come out, Obama will say, "We
cannot ignore this evidence" and get something going.
Excerpt: Conservatives' furor over a recent Department
of Homeland Security report warning law enforcement that the political
and economic situation might help potentially
violent rightwing extremist groups recruit new members shows no signs of
In the latest move against DHS, radio host Michael
Savage joined with a conservative Christian legal group, the Thomas More
Law Center, to file suit against DHS Secretary
Janet Napolitano and Attorney General Eric Holder.
So, the report says, "Right-wing Nazis can be dangerous," and
Savage replies, "We are not?" Why doesn't Savage understand that he's calling himself a right-wing
And when the report says, "Returning veterans
possess combat skills and experience that are attractive to rightwing extremists," Savage
is going to lead the charge that combat skills aren't helful in combat?
Hey Weinieboy - I hear there's a new Wax Museum in San Fransisco.
Don't they have some liberal statues that need to be sexually molested
by a big, brave man like you?
My suspicion about torture is that Obama is letting
this information out slowly enough to get people pissed off.
The people who have already accepted it was wrong
are supposed to be frustrated, angry, activist.
The delay is for everyone else. It gets people
acquainted with the breakdown:
It was not somehow "clean" because Bybee, Yoo,
et al sanctioned it.
It never is clean, nor are the outcomes easy.
It doesn't work. When it seems to work,
a cloud is cast over the intelligence received. It poisons trials and sentencing.
And rumors of it are disastrous to our national
reputation, and that blows back on our troops.
It make take a while for people to grasp all of
that in full--there's a lot of denial out there. The slow approach lets
get over the hump of recognition, and when the
people demand things, like Judge Bybee being impeached, or an investigation,
or Special Counsel, the White House is a little
more insulated from the right-wing crybabies who would just holler
"Partisan vendetta! No fair!" if Obama were to
initiate it himself.
Or there's my optimistic face on it.
I got hired as a dealer for the WSOP this year,
they are having a 1,000 dollar buy in event, for the first time.
It's the "Stimulus Special" Sat. May 30th.
The rest of the schedule can be found at Worldseriesofpoker.com
If the money for the Bartcop WSOP dream slows
down you should offer folks half their donation as action,
somebody gives you 100 dollars, give them 5%
of any winnings you make, etc. etc.
-- Mike the Dealer.
Mike, that's a great idea - let's do that, because it looks
we're gathering enough donations to make that happen.
donated gets you 5% of my winnings.
Join Team Bartcop to make this once-in-a-lifetime dream
"Obama's doing well enough, but if his base
keeps sniping at him, come 2012 you might be complaining about President Palin and
VP Huckabee, with Pat Robertson as Sec of Def." --
taken from comments made by ApprxAM, Link
Faux News says that 800,000 people "joined in"
to the teabag party?
It looked to me like there were about 100 "parties,"
with about 800 people average -- that's 80,000, not 800,000.
Maybe "joined in" means "knew someone who
The whore media will always downplay the Left's
protests (they refused to cover
some protests against Bush) and they will
always play up protests against a Democrat.
That's why they're called whores - the "news" is for sale.
Excerpt: Former Speaker and current scumbag Newt Gingrich
tore into Obama Monday for shaking the hand
of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, saying Obama
is bolstering the "enemies of America.”
The delusional Gingrich was on a number of talk
shows comparing Obama to Carter for the smiling,
hearty handshake he offered Chavez, who correctly
called Fuhrer Bush "The Devil" a couple of years ago.
Her means it's wrong when a Democrat does it.
“Frankly, this does look a lot like Jimmy Carter.
Carter tried weakness, and the world got tougher and tougher,
because the predators, the aggressors, the anti-Americans,
the dictators – when they sense weakness,
they all start pushing ahead,” Gingrich said
on “Fox & Friends.”
Note: All the hostages came home alive under Carter.
Obama smacked Gingrich down with his quiet aplomb.
“It's unlikely that as a consequence of me
shaking hands or having a polite conversation with Mr. Chavez that we are endangering the strategic interests
of the United States,” Obama told braindead WH reporters..
“I don't think anybody can find any evidence
that that would do so. Even within this imaginative crowd, I think you
would be hard-pressed to paint a scenario in
which U.S. interests would be damaged as a consequence of us having
a more constructive relationship with Venezuela.”
PLEASE make it clear that Texas is NOT planning
to leave the union.
It's just a bunch of bloviating and grandstanding
by a very few wingnuts in the statehouse who wanted attention.
They were laughed at and it was over. None
of the media down here is even talking about it - it's a non-issue..
It's like all the rest of the wingnuts making
mountains out of mole-hills and trying to start a panic over....well...
Seriously. I wish people would stop freaking
out over every little BS newsbyte they read..
Keep Slammin' the hammer..
But wasn't your Governor Perry bleeting the loudest?
the meaning of torture in less than one minute"
I'll guard the door for you.
When that bastard Rumsfeld said it was nothing
to be subjected to these things as he had to
stand around his desk all day while he worked.
Let me at that bastard and I could torture
his ass without any of the harsh tactics 'authorized'
by these bullshit law manipulators.
Locking this whole crowd in prison would be waaaay
to good for them. I would not feel
one bit of remorse to have them tortured til
the end of thier miserable lives - like Marcellus
Wallace threatened in Pulp Fiction: "Get some
pipe hittin' MFers with a blow torch."
Stress positions alone are such torture, even without all the
If you're in your teens, you might last an hour like this.
I'd like to see Cheney get 24 hours of this and then hear him say "It's
"After 9-11 we asked men and women in this
country serving in our military and our intelligence agencies to go out and find bad guys. I'm always a
little hesitant afterwards when we try to judge the kinds of things they
did. That being said, we are America and we got
to live up to a certain standard, and I think what the president did was strike the right balance in how they went
about dealing with this." -- Harold Ford, who might be another Lieberman,
Bart, if you have time would you again tell me
how to record your radio shows to a CD.
You told me in one email but cannot find the
email with that info. Must have deleted it.
I know that you are very busy. It is hard
to get a computer tech in this small town to help
with this sort of thing, and I am wanting to
listen to your shows in the car.
Keep up the excellent coverage (with humor) on
your website. Love it!!!
Gwen, the bad news is each CD burner is different,
but you start by right-clicking on a show link.
Your computer will ask where to save it - you
can put it anywhere, even directly onto C:.
Then you open your CD Burner, put a blank in the tray and drag or select
the radio show file
into the onscreen place where your CD burner program designates and
hit "Burn CD."
You might need a neighborhood kid to help - they know everything.
Excerpt: Almost as disturbing as reading the Bush administration’s
approved menu of brutal interrogation techniques is recognizing
how Bush successfully shopped for government
attorneys willing to render American laws meaningless by turning words
The four “torture” memos, released Thursday, revealed
not just that the stomach-turning reports about CIA interrogators abusing
“war on terror” suspects were true, but that
the United States had gone from a “nation of laws” to a “nation of legal
– where conclusions on law are politically preordained
and the legal analysis is made to fit...
If legal language can be interpreted any way that
a President wishes – and if the U.S. Supreme Court is stocked with
like-minded judges – then laws will no longer
protect anyone, whether a suspected terrorist or an American citizen."
you can say "Beating a man's head against
a brick wall is not torture," then
you can say
"Hanging a man until his heart stops is not
If we don't have a trial, won't every Fascist dog president make
up his own laws?
Obama, having released many of the legal memoranda
supposedly allowing torture, at briefly raised the hopes of those
concerned that government cannot and will not
check its own abuses of power. However, Obama, by issuing public
that it will not prosecute those who carried
out torture, if they relied on the legal memoranda to protect them.
If the Nuremberg
trials taught the world anything, it is that
the defense of “just following orders” in committing acts that all civilized
as crimes, would be brushed aside as insufficient
in the tribunals of international law.
By publicly refusing to prosecute torturers and
implicitly refusing to prosecute those who issued the orders and twisted
framework for those orders, the new administration
has shown that it is helpless and unmotivated to prevent the heirs of Washington,
Jefferson, Adams and Lincoln stopping torture
and murder on their own soil. The moral fiber that founded this nation
and saw it
through civil war, two world wars and the Great
Depression quails from indictments for torture and murder on the grounds
would be politically inconvenient and impolite.
The new administration has shown that it is no more knowledgeable about
rule of law than the last administration.
EL, I hope you're wrong.
Obama's day is not yet done.
Maybe he's waiting for America to DEMAND torture trials?
Last thing he can appear to be is eager to hang Bush.
In 2013, they'll probably be eager to hang him.
Of course, let's only sink the pirates, and of
course a fishing boat looks completely different from a 16-foot speedboat.
It's a great idea, but a lousy plan. The problem
is the speedboats don't have the range to get out that far, they are usually
deployed from "mother ships" that are often converted
fishing trawlers. How are we going to tell the difference between
a fishing boat headed home with its catch and
a pirate trawler headed home with its plunder?
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