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 Friday  May 15, 2009  Vol 2335 - Torture Couture 
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Quote of the Day

"I always tell you people, 
  'Don't try what I do at home. 
  The great make it look easy.' 
  It's a real talent to be able to lie."
      -- Pigboy, his brain ravaged by syphilis    

 

In Today's Tequila Treehouse...
Arrow Deconstructing Obama's Excuses 
Arrow U.S. governed by melodrama HOT
Arrow Right Wing Radio Rage HOT
Arrow Drug Czar: Drug War Pointless HOT
Arrow Pelosi says Bush Team Lied 
Arrow Pelosi the Enabler HOT
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"Last Sunday the popular news chat shows featured Cheney, McCain and Gingrich.
  When Republicans control the government, major news shows skew Republican. 
  When Democrats control the government the shows still lean right." 
     -- Tim F,    Link
 

 Over the years I've tried to explain this.

 When a Rethug gets on TV - it's really great TV!
 They scream, "that nigger" at Obama and they set their hair on fire and they make threats 
 about seceding from the country and arming the populace to fend off "Obama's fascism."

 When a meek and timid Democratic mouse gets on TV, he says he wants to be fair and 
  the GOP has a good point and they have good people ...and can't we all just get along?
 If I produced a Sunday TV show, I'd probably have the hair-on-fire dudes, too.

 Until the Democrats learn to list the facts - forceably - who wants to hear from them?

 Who wants to hear a wimpy mouse squeak when they can hear an angry lion roar?  
 

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Deconstructing Obama's Excuses
 
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In trying to explain his startling decision to oppose the public release of more photos depicting detainee abuse, 
President Obama and his aides yesterday put forth six excuses for his about-face, one more flawed than the next.

First, there was the nothing-to-see-here excuse. In his remarks yesterday afternoon, Obama said the "photos are not 
particularly sensational, especially when compared to the painful images that we remember from Abu Ghraib."

The Whore Post reports that one congressional staffer said the pictures are more graphic than those from Abu Ghraib. 
"When they are released, there will be a major outcry for an investigation," the staff member said.

The NYWhore Times reports: "Many of the photos may recall those taken at Abu Ghraib which caused 
an uproar in when they came to light in 2004."  And if they really aren't that sensational, then what's the big deal? 
Then there was the the-bad-apples-have-been-dealt-with excuse. This one, to me, is the most troubling.
 

I think I know what happened here.

The inexperienced Obama White House made the correct, I think, decision to release the photos.
Then the generals came to Obama and said, "If you release these, you'll lose support from the soldiers and 
the military familes and you'll lose most of the generals and most of the Pentagon, so please reconsider."

Obama, being a shrewd politician, decided not to throw away the military good will he has established.

I think those photos should come out for the same reason Bush should've been impeached:
If the military knows they can abuse helpless prisoners and Obama will help them cover it up - they'll keep doing it.

I always say "Truth is the enemy of the Republicans."
I understand why he's doing this, but it looks like the truth is, in this case, Obama's enemy.

If the military doesn't want proof of their atrocious behavior to come out - they should stop acting atrociously.
 

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Quotes

"Cheney's PR offensive over the last month actually worked.  Obama just crumbled and will follow Cheney's command 
  to not release the abuse pictures...Now, it looks to the rest of the world that we are trying to hide something, that we have 
  not turned over a new leaf, that it is the same old lies and duplicity - and that Obama is on it. This was colossally stupid. "
    --  Cenk Uygur, looking for the worst light he can oput this in,    Link

 
 Obama is not following Cheney's commands.

 They looked at the situation, they made the right decision to release the pictures,
 but then the military came with all their doomsday scenarios of what would happen 
 and Obama reconsidered his first judgment.

 It was marginally stupid to not think it thru before making the announcement.
 It's easier to avoid the hole than to step in it and then ask, "Who knows how to set a broken leg?" 
 

 Sidebar:
 I like Rahm Emanuel, but is he doing a good job?

 Think about West Wing - Bartlet was always thinking about with some off-the-cuff idea but then 
 Leo would enter the room calmy explain why things needed to go in a different direction 
 and Bartlet would see he was right - and fewer mistakes were made.

 And don't they have a military laison dude in the White House?
 Did they get his opinion before announce the photo release?
 Rahm didn't have 5 minutes to make a phone call to the Joint Chiefs to get their opinion?

 Is Rahm Emanuel doing a good job?
 

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U.S. governed by melodrama
 by Gene Lyons

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 Excerpt:
Obama has described the Afghanistan/Pakistan border region as "the most dangerous place in the world" for Americans.
On TV chat shows, national security thinkers wax portentous at the dire prospect of the Taliban gaining control of Pakistan's
nuclear arsenal. In sober moments, most admit that this is as unlikely as white supremacist militias overrunning the Pentagon,
but it definitely makes for exciting melodrama.

And TV melodrama is how America governs itself. Within the Washington establishment, it's well-nigh treasonous to point out
that we're talking here about the absolute end of the Earth; that the U.S. hasn't got the manpower, resources or political will to
control territory that Pakistan's own government can't tame; and that the habit of treating the entire planet as a huge game of "Risk"
is leaving the United States as overextended militarily and financially as the Spanish Empire in 1588, the year its armada was
destroyed off the coast of Ireland.

Privately, Obama might agree. As a political matter, he cannot.
 

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"We've had quite a few (military abuse) pictures. 
  I'm not sure we need anymore. I haven't seen the pictures."
    --  Harry Reid with his typical Sgt Schultz , "I know no-thing" leadership role,    Link

 
 Between Reid & Pelosi - it makes me want to start drinking early.
 

"I don't know what the point of releasing them would be, other than to have 
  an enormous cataclysmic reaction. We saw the Abu Ghraib photographs."
    --  Dianne Feinstein, who isn't sure if she's seen the photos,    Link

 Hey Dianne, why didn't you mention that BEFORE they announced the decision to release them?
 
 Isn't anybody using their f-ing head?
 

"Hmm TWO major flip flops in 2 days. I bet the Kos kiddies hearts are breaking." 
    --  some prick over at Lucianne.com    

  Oh yeah?

 
 
"From what I've heard so far, these photos should be released." 
    --  Russ Feingold, who won't be asking for sacrifice from the military,    Link
 

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 Subject: Star Trek Movie - You Are So Right!

Bart, I havenít been to a movie in a few years but based solely on your recommendation 
I went to see Star Trek this week. Rarely have I had such a fun time at the cinema and the time flew by!
I want to see more! Thanks. You have good taste in movies and I am going to listen to you from now on. 
I know a movie is good when I come out smiling and feeling great.
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Right Wing Radio Rage

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I was utterly horrified to hear Dallas-based talk show host Mark Davis, subbing for Rush Limbaugh, laughingly and approvingly read
a passage from a Dallas magazine article by CBS sportscaster David Feherty claiming that 'any U.S. soldier,' given a gun with two bullets
and stuck in an elevator with Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and Osama bin Laden, would use both bullets on Pelosi and strangle the other two.

How have we come to this pass in America where the assassination of top government officials is fodder for snide jokes on national radio?

Talk radio has been seething with such intensity that I am finding it very hard to listen to it. How many times do we have to be told the
sky is falling? The major talk show hosts made a strategic error in failing to reset at lower volume after Obama's election.
When the default mode is feverish crisis pitch, there's nowhere to go, and monotony sets in. Lately, I've been impatiently tuning out.

As a longtime fan of talk radio, I don't think this bodes well for the long-term broad appeal of the medium. I want stimulation and
expansion of my thinking -- not shrill, numbing hectoring and partisan undermining of the authority and dignity of the presidency.
Rabidly Bush-bashing Democrats shouldn't have done it to the last president either, but that's no excuse for conservatives,
who claim to revere our institutions, to play schoolyard tit for tat.
 

I don't know what the writer is talking about - Rabidly Bush-bashing Democrats?  Surely not on the radio.
Take away Randi Rhodes, who only went after Bush-Cheney moderately, and who else are we talking about?
Keith Olbermann is the only guy on all of TV who went after Bush-Cheney - so who are we talking about?

You can't compare 400 foam-at-the-mouth radio and TV racists to Rhodes and Olbermann.
 

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Quotes

"(Those helpless torture victims) wouldn't be treated any better in the United States, 
  and they wouldn't have the tropical breezes blowing through." 
    -- Jess Sessions, proving what a lying bastard he really is,    Link

 
 Bush ordered those goat herders held outside our borders so he wouldn't have to answer to a federal judge.
 Sessions knows that - he's just lying in the hope that the brainless, Southern white rednecks will believe him.

 Hey Jeff, meet me in Vegas on May 30 - when the breezes are so tropical - and I'll push your face
 into a bucket of urine until you swallow so much you pass out - then you can tell me how nice it feels.
 

"What do you expect from a party that snearingly vilifies anyone who is educated and 
  accomplished as "elites."  Ignorance is the GOP's primary appeal to southern white males. 
  That explains Jeff Sessions - ignorant, white, redneck male. The Bama crackers jes luv him."
   -- afgail     Link
 

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 Subject: Reagan's tax cuts

I seem to remember that Reagan did, indeed cut the corporate tax rate as you indicate (in the fall of 1981
...and THEN in March, 1982, he pushed through one of the largest tax increases in the nation's history.
 
Remember, the increase of the federal tax on gasoline and the increase on cigarettes?
 
He also managed the four-fold increase in the national debt from $900-billions (which he lambsted Carter for) 
to $3.6-TRILLION....and set the stage for the lobbyist empires that run our government.
 C. Davie
 

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"I worry about about justices on the court making decisions based on what they think makes them feel good.
  In essence youíre saying, 'I donít care what the law says, Iím going to rewrite the law. And I think thatís dangerous." 
     -- Alberto Gonzales, lecturing us on obeying the law,   Link
 

"Like when the felonious five decided to install the boy-idiot? 
  Or when you decided to make your boss feel good by justifying torture?" 
    -- barfly,    Link
 

"This guy was hired by George "the Constitution is just a damn piece of paper" Bush. Priceless." 
     --  Doodlebug Shayne,     Link
 

"Alberto Gonzales is the legal profession's version of a ten dollar whore. 
  He helped Bush/Cheney to rip up the Constitution and wipe their asses with it. 
  He should go to prison with the rest of the war criminals." 
   -- PFWoody488,    Link
 

  A shot of Chinaco to barfly, Doodlebug Shayne and PFWoody488.

  
 

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Drug Czar: Drug War Pointless

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 Excerpt:
Obama's new drug czar says he wants to banish the idea that the U.S. is fighting "a war on drugs," 
a move that would underscore a shift favoring treatment over incarceration in trying to reduce illicit drug use.

Gil Kerlikowske said Wednesday the bellicose analogy was a barrier to dealing with the nation's drug issues.
"Regardless of how you try to explain to people it's a 'war on drugs' or a 'war on a product,' people see a war
as a war on them," he said. "We're not at war with people in this country." 
 

Why don't we all agree on this:
If they let us have marijuana, we'll help the cops get the coke dealers, meth dealers, crack dealers, etc.

Anyone caught "heavy" with a chemical drug, say, after January 1, 2010, goes to jail.

But I'm convinced they LOVE the war on drugs. Cops get to bust high schoolers with pot, 
lawyers get rich defending affluent "criminals," the courts more money from the heavy fines, etc.

It's a big sham and a citizen wants to take a mental vacation the government wants a cut.

A few issues back I quoted a cop who asked his cop friends, 
"When was the last time you busted a violent pot smoker?"
None of the assembled cops could think of a time, then he asked,
"When was the last time you busted a violent drunk?" and everybody's hand shot up.

They could significantly cut the crime rate AND balance the budget with legal pot,
but the religiously insane said God got very, very angry when they asked Him about it.

...and you know how vicious and vengeful God can get when he's angry.
 

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Pelosi says Bush Team Lied

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 Excerpt:
Under strong attack from Republicans, (and many in her own party) Pelosi accused the CIA and the Bush bastards
of misleading her about torture in the war on terror and sharply rebutted claims she was complicit in the method's use.

"We were told specifically that waterboarding was not being used," she told reporters, referring to a 2002 CIA briefing.
Pelosi said she subsequently learned that other lawmakers were told later by the CIA about the torture.
"I wasn't briefed, I was informed that someone else had been briefed about it," she said.

When Pelosi first addressed the question, she said that she was not told that the practice had been employed.
"We were not - I repeat, were not - told that these enhanced interrogation methods were used," she said at the time.
Later, her spokesman elaborated, saying Pelosi had been told the methods were legal but that they had not yet been used.
 

Nancy, part of the trick to successful lying is not changing your story.
You might be innocent, but when you change your story you look more guilty.
 

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Quotes

"Sarah Palin has a deal to write her memoir. I believe it's titled, 'The Book to Nowhere.'
  She's not writing the book herself - she hired Joe the Ghostwriter to help her.
  The cover shows her in a passionate embrace with a shirtless Fabio."
     -- Dave Letterman
 

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Subject: Investigate Pelosi?

Hey Bart!

Why the hell is everyone talking about investigating Pelosi?  Why isn't anyone investigating:

- the people who let her into the briefings, and needed (?) to ask the House Minority leader to sign off on what exactly?

- the House Majority leader at the time?

- the White House executive at the time?

Maybe, once the people primarily responsible for this policy are placed under oath, and provide their justification
for reintroducing torture as american governmental policy, then we can worry about Pelosi's role in this.

Just wondering (rhetorically it seems) why the Republican'ts are still allowed to frame the debate.  
And are still allowed to get away without testifying under oath about any of these high crimes and misdemeanors,
which, if I'm not mistaken, is why impeachment was put into the frelling constitution in the first place...

Keep swinging the hammer!  More Monkey Mail!
 Tom the Unemployed Pillar in Pontiac, formerly blogging at the Funny Farm (sigh)
 

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Pelosi the Enabler
Why Didn't She Speak Up?

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Nancy Pelosi is no Dikk Cheney, nor a Bush. She was neither the author of a systematic policy of torture
nor has she been, like Cheney and most top Republicans in Congress, an enduring apologist for its practice.

But what she, and anyone else who went along with this evil, as lackadaisically as she now claims, should be
confronted with are the serious implications of their passive acquiescence. Why did she not speak up, or if it were
a matter of a lack of reliable information, demand an accounting from the executive branch, as befits a leader of
the loyal opposition in Congress?

If the ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, and later House Democratic leader, lacked the
authority to publicly question a policy of torture, then how can we condemn, indeed imprison, ordinary soldiers
who thought it their duty to follow orders?

By acquiescing to the cover-up of unpleasant truths in the treatment of prisoners, Pelosi contributed to the betrayal
of the ideal of public accountability that is the bedrock of our government, which Congress is charged with protecting..
 
 

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 Subject: Obama's "filp-flop" on abuse pix

Bart, I think the prez is going to Egypt next week. 
Not the time to show pix of little boys being raped. 

He's saving it for the next GOP fundraiser!
Keep making the pie higher,
 Randy
 

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Subject: You're such an asshole - you always take the republicasn side

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Randi Rhodes Update

Beginning Monday, May 18th AM 760 Randi Rhodes returns in the 7pm-10pm (Mountain) slot.

You can also stream Randi from am760.net, listen on your desktop, iphone, or Blackberry,
or catch the podcasts of Randiís show on am760.net.
 

Update Update
What kind of radio station is  am760.net?

I checked them out and saw this:

Really?
"Progressive Talk" 760 AM says waterboarding is not torture? 

Randi might have her hands full there.
 

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 Subject: Randi Rhodes

Yes.  Very odd. She said she wasn't allowed to blog or post updates.
She says she doesn't Twitter because she can't limit herself to 140 characters.
That's about all I remember.  They are running her from 6-9pm Pacific here.
Thatís about 2 hours past my 4:20 Tee time.

Watch this space for future possible podcasts.
http://www.am1090seattle.com/pages/569715.php
 Lowell
 

Lowell, thanks for that - but why would Randi sign a contract
that said she's not allowed to blog or post updates for her fans?

And even if she did (hard to believe) she doesn't have a friend 
at  friendofrandi.com who can post updates?

And as far as Twitter, she COULD write
"I'm back on May 18th on am760.net."  That doesn't take 140 characters

And what lawyer would limit her blogging and page-posting - but not Twitter?

Randi apparently sees great value in drama and mystery - I don't get it.
 

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 Subject: Obama's Torture Photo U-Turn

Hi Bart,

As an Obama supporter, Iíve got to say his decision to try to weasel out of releasing the prisoner abuse photos 
is a very shallow and self-serving one that reeks of political cowardice. The fact is, Obama has a losing argument 
in court and will almost certainly be forced to cough up the pictures sooner or later. The president no doubt knows this, 
but apparently feels the need to hide behind SCOTUS robes before complying with the law and his own previous vow 
to run a transparent administration.

I understand the desire not to put our troops in harmís way any more than they are already, but attempting to censor the 
evidence everybody knows about, even without seeing the new images, will not accomplish the mission. Our governmentís 
abuse and torture of prisoners is one truth we let out of the barn door since the Abu Ghraib horrors emerged years ago, at least.

Keep swinging that hammer and stay as well as you can. Best wishes,
 Paul
 

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 Subject: Obama's Torture Photo U-Turn

Hey Bart,

You asked:  "Genius move or major screw-up?"

I think he's playing them all.  

By speaking against the release of the photos, which he knows will come out eventually anyway, 
he can answer the Reich-wingers by saying  "Hey, I wasn't the one who released them!"  

That way he undercuts the wingnuts completely.  
I think this is just another example of how very smart he is.
 rdale
 

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