"If you think the Clinton's use dirty tricks, then wait until the
GOP slime machine starts to attack the greenhorn (Obama)." -- Rick Raff, Link
Bush's whore press would never point this out - so the Democrats should.
All that dirty, nasty-ass campaigning in Carolina was the Republicans.
It's always the Republicans who do the dirty stuff, the black babies and
stories of the drugged-up wives, Perot's photoshopped daughter pics,
the broken voting machines and the jammed phone lines - that's all GOP.
Voters are stupid, brainless cows - they need to be led around by the nose.
They need to be be reminded daily who the evil bastards are.
Obama recently cited Reagan as a leader who “changed the trajectory of America,” justifying
Reagan's course correction because of “all the excesses of the 1960s and 1970s, and government
had grown and grown, but there wasn’t much sense of accountability.”
Obama seemed to suggest that Reagan administered a needed dose of accountability to the
U.S. government. In reality, one could say the opposite.
Reagan oversaw the dismantling of regulatory structures that restrained the excesses of Wall Street,
the energy industry and other economic powerhouses. Many of today’s problems – from the
meltdown to the nation’s wasteful energy policies – can be traced to Reagan’s contempt
for that type of accountability. The record reveals a foreign policy that was one of the most brutal,
most corrupt and least accountable in American history.
Reagan’s clandestine dealings with Iran and Iraq remain shrouded in secrecy and deception
to this day. Also suppressed has been the full story of how Reagan tolerated drug traffickers
who operated under the cover of his favorite covert operations (Nicaragua and Afghanistan).
Reagan aided and abetted mass slaughters in Central America, including genocide in Guatemala,
but neither he nor any of his senior advisers faced any meaningful accountability for their actions.
I'll bet Obama wishes he could answer that question again.
"You know the former president, who I think all of us have a lot of regard for,
has taken his advocacy on behalf of his wife to a level that I think is pretty troubling." -- Obama, wishing Bill wasn't so good at politics, Link
First, the win was narrow - not big enough for her to take momentum into South Carolina.
She'll need a convincing win in South Carolina to start putting real distance between herself
and Obama. And, as we know, it's the only state where he's been consistently ahead in polls.
Clinton may also have paid a price by dint of the fact that this was a dirty, bitter race. Obama
didn't completely wrap himself in glory, and he probably erred in praising Reagan and calling
the Republican Party the party of "ideas" in recent American history. But the Clinton campaign
twisted those words and a lot more.
Who has the stature to tell Bill Clinton he behaved in a discreditable fashion.
His wife? Vernon Jordan?
I see lots of accusations and no examples.
If you're for Obama, you don't need to explain yourself?
Whoever it is, someone had better stop him.
Damn, that sounds almost like a threat.
He campaigned against a fellow Democrat no
differently than if he was Newt Gingrich.
This is hardball politics to see who gets to run the planet.
Was Obama expecting Tea at Goldies?
Trust me, to the thousands of committed
progressives who supported him
needed it, he's done himself a tremendous amount of damage.
Says who? Michael Tomasky?
You say, "Trust me," but who are you? Have we ever heard of you?
Who are you to rule that Clinton didn't play fair, wasn't nice and needs reigning in?
Why not admit you lost and take your defeat like a man?
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Subject: Robert Parry, David Rees and you
Hey, maybe the problem isn't Robert Parry. Maybe its you, dude.
Sure, that's always a possibility ...like me getting elected Pope is a possibility.
David Rees, the Get Your War On guy, is fundraising for Obama.
Does he have a problem too?
I have no problem with anybody liking any Democrat - that should be obvious.
But if David Rees becomes obsessed with reading Hillary's mind, and then interpreting
her every thought in the most outrageously false manner possible, then we have a problem.
I love a pugulistic Democrat as much as the next guy, and I want to win in November.
I loved Bill Clinton, but Hillary Clinton? Hillary Clinton is GOP-lite.
That's crazy talk.
She's not as left-wing as some left-wingers think she could be.
She's nearer to the center - where the voters are.
If you want to lose 49 states, vote as left as you can.
She appears to have very few if any principles.
As always, we need to ask: Compared to who?
I will hold my nose and vote for her,
but how you can slam Obama,
who is the real deal and has the potential to take this
country into a
great new direction and has the intelligence and charisma and will power
to lead us to progressive Valhalla? Gimme a break!
Dude, you don't need a break - you just need to remind yourself
difference between an opinion and a fact.
Obama gives a good speech, but who is he? What has he done?
What does he stand for? What has he accomplished?
He was in the game TWO YEARS when he decided he was the most
qualified person to lead America - that doesn't seem egotistical to you?
Hillary has eight years in the White House and seven in the senate and some
people claim she's not qualified, so how does your guy clear that hurdle?
And this thing:
> > Obama says he's the anti-war candidate. Again, all he did was make a speech.
>> Why didn't he threaten to filibuster like every Republican in the senate?
He wasn't in the Senate then. Come on now.
He was in the senate in 2005, why did he remain silent?
He was in the senate in 2006, why did he remain silent?
He was in the senate in 2007, why did he remain silent?
He's in the senate NOW, why doesn't he DO something?
"Reagan openly did extraordinary damage to the middle class and working people,
created a tax structure that favored the very wealthiest Americans and caused the
middle class and working people to struggle every single day. The destruction of the
environment, eliminating regulation of companies that were polluting and doing
extraordinary damage to the environment. I can promise you this, *I* will never
use Ronald Reagan as an example for change." -- John Edwards, mocking Obama's Reagan comments, Link
Of the three, doesn't Edwards have the best message?
That we need to take power back from the corporations?
Why won't people vote for what's best for them?
Why do poor people vote to make the rich richer?
Because they're super, super, super stupid
and the Democrats haven't taught them a thing.
Bart, Yeah, I have a big problem with Todd's opinion.
The part where he said
Hillary may not have been as sure as some of us,
that Bush was a liar.
I get sick to think Hillary had ANY FUCKING TRUST in DerMonkey,
and don't want to believe this, but what else could she have been thinking
--giving that Nancy Grace to him? I know hindsight is 20/20, but I want
to think she was alot smarter than that.
Jackie, I'll bet you gave Kerry a pass on this 4 years ago, but not Hillary.
Can you explain why?
To deliberately misinterpret what Obama said is evil. To truly not see it, stupid.
But if Obama is your guy, he can praise Reagan and it's OK?
Either way, you lose. For a time, your Hillary worship was rather funny.
Now when you lie about her opponents, it is just sick.
I realize the Clintons cannot win without lying, but I won't pay for it.
I know your guy had a bad weekend, but it's illogical to take that out on me.
Obama said something stupid and his opponents called him on it.
"Reagan changed the trajectory
of America in a way that Nixon
did not and Clinton did not.
He put us on a fundamentally
different path, because the country was ready for it."
-- Obama, praising Reagan, Link
You are a LIAR
You are a LIAR
You are a LIAR
You are a LIAR
Shell the Excitable
Obama appropriates the apocalyptic optimism of Reagan
Excerpt: Ronald Reagan killed people, and he killed ideals. He began his campaign for the presidency
in Philadelphia, Mississippi, a town that had claimed the lives of three civil rights activists
barely more than fifteen years earlier. In Central America, he painted nun-raping, dope dealing
thugs with the high gloss of Ben Franklin and Thomas Jefferson as they slaughtered tens of
thousands of people, in Nicaragua, El Salvador, and Guatemala.
I disagree with Obama that America was "ready" for that.
Reagan supported the racist apartheid regime in South Africa; he killed Congressional sanctions
against Iraq sparked by Saddam’s use of poison gas against the Kurds; he mounted an assault on
regulatory structures that resulted in, among other disasters, a trillion-dollar implosion of the S&L
industry. When the AIDS epidemic took root and spread in this country, he did nothing while
victims, advocates and scientists begged for research money and government assistance.
I disagree with Obama that America was "ready" for that.
"Bill Clinton may have been from the South and appointed blacks to his Cabinet
opened an office later in Harlem, 'but if you really look at the policies he backed,
were worse for blacks than those of the pre-civil rights days.'" -- Dwight Hopkins, distorting Bill's record to help Obama, Link
Excerpt: Bill Clinton said in 1991: "The Reagan-Bush years have exalted private gain over
public obligation, special interests over the common good, wealth and fame over work
and family. The 1980s ushered in a Gilded Age of greed and selfishness, of irresponsibility
and excess, and of neglect.”
Contrast that with Obama’s recent statement to a Nevada newspaper, that Reagan
offered a “sense of dynamism and entrepreneurship that had been missing.”
Maybe Obama was simply praising Reagan’s political skills.
But where in his remarks was the clear declaration that Reaganomics failed?
Why would Obama say anything that lends credibility to this
rewriting of history
- particularly right now, when Reaganomics has just failed all over again?
I've read your site for years now and not always agreed with you.
So it is with a heavy heart that I have to say that I feel the Clintons deliberately brought up
race in the campaign against Obama. The use, particularly, of the term "boy" by Bill Clinton
and the antagonism he shows to Obama is real and genuine. Sad truth.
First, you might throttle back your monopoly on the ability to see the "truth."
We're all seeing this race thru our own prejudiced eyes, so let's recognize that, OK?
I'm not familiar with that "slur" by Clinton.
It seems you have bought into Obama's assertion that the Clintons are racist,
a charge that even FOX News is laughing at, instead of piling on.
And even if the word "boy" was used, it's not always a racial slur.
When Ken Starr told James Carville, "Your boy's getting rolled,"
do you think Starr was calling Clinton an African-American?
I won't vote for Hillary in the general because of this, because of the way they have campaigned.
And many others won't either. Play fair or we all lose. Well, we all lose here. I don't think the
Republicans are smart enough to nominate McCain, so I think she'll win the general anyway,
but the damage she and Bill have done to the party will keep the Democrats from the kind of
majorities necessary to achieve anything of substance in the next four years.
Have your past predictions generally come true?
I personally will stay home, and the $200 I sent to John Kerry and the $200 I sent to the
senate committee, they ain't getting sent to Hillary and her regular party friends.
Sad truth, Bartcop, they played this all wrong and it is not going to go away.
Tim, if you truly mean to show respect, recognize that you have opinions, like I do.
In your opinion the Clintons played this "all wrong," but we won't know until election day.
You Obama fans had to know he was a long-shot going in - being a newbie and
thinking he could muscle in on the biggest stars of his party? That was a bold move,
but if he fails, it's not because of all the evil, mean and racist things the Clintons did.
It's kinda like the Yankess drafting Obama in 1955 and then Obama declares, "I think I'm most qualified center fielder right now, so get
out of my way because I'm the star of the team."
And when Mantle keeps his job, Obama cries, "Racism!"
But don't give up on Obama - he may be The Democrats' future.
Asian and European stock markets plunged Monday following declines on Wall Street
amid investor pessimism over Bush's "stimulus plan" to prevent a recession.
India - down 7.4 percent, Hong Kong plummeted 5.5 percent, its biggest drop since 9-11.
Investors were skeptical that Bush knows shit about the economy,
which has been
battered by housing and credit problems. The Bush plan, if approved by Congress,
calls for about $145 billion worth of tax relief to encourage consumer spending.
Concerns about the outlook for the U.S. economy has sent Asian markets sliding in 2008.
Just last Wednesday, the Hang Seng index sank 5.4 percent.
''It's another horrible day,'' said Francis Lun, of Fulbright Securities in Hong Kong.
"'Today it's because of disappointment that the Bush package is too little, too late
and investors feel it won't help the economy recover.''
Japan's Nikkei 225 index slid to 13,325.94 points, its lowest close in more than 2 years.
China's Shanghai Composite index plunged 5.1 percent. Germany's DAX was down
4.2 percent, France slid 4.7 percent, while Britain's FTSE 100 dropped 3.6 percent.
Bush inherited a great economy, then screwed it up with tax cuts for the super-rich.
Bush's whore media tried to blame 9-11, but it was the tax cuts that killed our economy.
Note the date
Now that he's looted the Treasury, he says the super-rich need MORE tax cuts.
Will anybody try to stop him?
Just curious, what would you do if Obama won the nomination?
I would fight like hell to get him elected.
You cannot seem to abide anyone or any opinion which differs from yours,
even between two Democrats. I am really surprised at you!
Are you new to the page?
Nobody prints and answers as much unfriendly mail as I do.
I like Hillary too, but if Obama gets the nomination, I will certainly vote for him,
unless of course you prefer President McCain or President Giuliani!
I don't think it's possible to be more clear than I have been.
I'm going to fight vigorously for the Democrat and few (if any) other people and
web sites say that
because deep down, they see Hillary winning and they just can't
stand the Democrats picking a nominee that's not the one they chose.
This is not a war on terror, this is a war OF terror, that is happening from our inner city
streets all the way to Afghanistan and Iraq. For those individuals who have been trained
to give less respect for human life overseas, they will then come home and get jobs in
law enforcement. They also have become traumatized and won’t get the help that they
need from the Veterans Administration and therefore they will self-medicate, abusing
drugs and/or alcohol.
This leads to domestic violence, crime in the streets and homelessness. There are already
veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan who are homeless on our city’s streets. In this country,
which is seen by many people of the world as a land of great opportunity - and certainly
we are standing here with electricity and potable water so we are doing much better than
most of the rest of the world - but the reality of the American dream is that it is real for
a very few...and built on the nightmare of everybody else.
Someone said on the Sunday talk shows that 20% of
soldiers who went to Iraq have come home with Traumatic Brain Injury.
Bart, your website is the only one I regularly visit.
You are a paragon of rational thought. I don't always agree with you,
but I always respect your rational, intelligent commentary. I used to think
I was from another planet - thanks for being out there as a voice for those
who try to think clearly.
I've been enjoying your site for years (without contributing)
so it's about time I started catching up.
I'd like some CDs or a membership.
Dude, send me an e-mail so I can sign you up
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