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Wednesday   March 5,  2008  Vol 2122 - Obama Wins VT

Quote of the Day

"Buyer's remorse."
    -- MSGOP's Nora O'Donnell describing
        one voter's explanation for the election results

In Today's Tequila Treehouse...
Arrow Intentional Race-Baiting? HOT
Arrow Obama's Comeback? 
Arrow Plagiarism Double Dip?
Arrow Obama's Comeback? HOT
Arrow Dems sites react...
Arrow The Double Standard 
Arrow Bhutto's death - why? HOT
Arrow FBI spying on you and me 
Arrow Who's hottest in Hi-Def?


 
 

 



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Quotes

"We've won some big states ... we won Georgia..."
     -- Obama, trying to fight her big surge
 

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Clinton's Race-Baiting?
  by the crying-in-their-beer Clinton haters at KOS

 Link

 Excerpt:
I generally attempt to avoid conspiratorial conclusions, but I have just watched 
a Hillary Clinton campaign commercial that raises a few troubling questions...

Hillary raises "troubling questions" when she breathes air.

Call me crazy, 

ha ha
Don't do my job for me, OK?

...but it certainly appears to me that Obama's skin tone is significantly darker 
in the Clinton campaign commercial.  Watch it again and see if you agree.

Why should we?
You've already labeled Hillary a racist, so what do the facts matter?
 

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Used by permission

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Can Obama Come Back?

The way I understand things (stop laughing!) Obama can't get the necessary number 
of delegtes to win the nomination ...without Michigan and Florida - so we have a tie.

Clearly, a deal will have to be made.

She has the momentum and the big states, so what's our next move?
 

Question: 
Would Obama be a stronger candidate (and perhaps the future of our party)
after getting 4 or 8 years of White House experience the way Al Gore did?
 

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Subject: let's flip a coin

Depending on how the race goes, maybe Clinton and Obama should just flip a coin.
The winner gets to run for president. The loser has the option to be the Vice President.
I think that either Clinton/Obama or Obama/Clinton are winning tickets.

If the election is so close where there's a question about who really won,
rather than fighting over it we can resolve it by a simple coin flip.
No one would question the results.

Marc Perkel
San Bruno, CA.
 

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Quotes

"In a startling moment at a campaign stop, Hillary described herself and McCain as 
  stalwarts in the experience game and boiled down Obama's credentials to "a speech in 2002".
      -- Ann Davidow (D-Panties-in-a-wad) avid Obama backer   Link
 

Maybe her bigger point is: 

Where was Obama's big anti-war speech in 2003?

Where was Obama's big anti-war speech in 2004, at Kerry's convention?

Where was Obama's big anti-war speech in 2005?

Where was Obama's big anti-war speech in 2006?

Where was Obama's anti-war filibuster in 2007?
Was stopping the war worth standing up, Barack?

Perhaps She was asking, "If he's got more than a 2002 speech - where is it?"
 

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Subject: Re: I Wish Hillary was a Quitter

Bart,

Having read your page since before the Colossal Failure splooged all over the Whitehouse, I find myself
somewhat concerned. For you my friend. I could be wrong and I hope to hell I am, but reading you lately
has me wondering if you have gone over the edge. Certainly not because of your support of Hillary,
but because of the lengths you appear to have gone to, to disparage Obama.

Oh crap it never ends does it? Forget I wrote.
Clearly you are the only sane one in the room.

 Regards,
 A very good anonymous friend!
 

If that was a compliment - thanks.  Things HAVE been crazy, but *I*
haven't attacked Obama personally or any Obamaniacs personally.

I print news reports and columns and I have my own opinions,
but I think I've had the coolest head of anybody on this.

I was the first to say I wished this civil war was over.
 

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tattooconnection.net


Availability is First

 Link

 Excerpt:
Such rightists as Limbaugh, McLaughlin, George Will, and Robert Novak enjoy much more
exposure to mass audiences than left liberals and populists like Jim Hightower, Jerry Brown,
or Ralph Nader. And all of them, conservatives and liberals, enjoy more exposure than anyone
on the more "radical" or Marxist Left.

It is the economic power of the rich corporate media owners and advertisers that provides
right-wingers with so many mass outlets, not the latter's wit and wisdom. It is not public demand
that brings them on the air; it is private corporate owners and sponsors. They are listened to by
many not because they are so appealing but because they are so available. Availability is the first
and necessary condition of consumption. In this instance, supply does not merely satisfy demand;
supply creates demand. Hence, those who align themselves with the interests of corporate
America will have more freedom of expression than those who remain steadfastly critical.
 

Democrats aren't greedy bastards, so we never get rich enough
to own giant media conglomerates - so how do we fight back?
 

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Here we go again.
This ugliness is by Gary McCoy.

Obama fan or Limbaugh fan?


The Double Standard

 Link

 Excerpt:
The "Saturday Night Live" skit that showed reporters fawning over Obama 
while grilling Hillary Clinton like a felony suspect, wasn't too far off the mark.

The media coverage of the Clinton campaign is textbook case of how the coverage 
of female candidates differs from that of males. Women have to walk a very thin line 
when they run for high office. On the one hand, they have to appear tough, nothing at all 
like a sniveling female, and when they do talk tough, they are called "shrill."

The media loved Hillary when she put her hand on Obama's and said it was a privilege 
to be on the same podium; they hated her when she slammed him for giving out what 
she called misleading information on her healthcare plan. 

At the same time, the news media have gone into a deep swoon over Obama. Howard Kurtz 
said, "I haven't seen a politician get this kind of walk-on-water coverage since 
Colin Powell flirted with making a run for the White House. I mean, it is amazing."
 

This is more about hating the Clintons than keeping women in their place.

Sidebar: If Hillary becomes Clinton 44, she'll have Tina Fey to thank.
Tina Fey might become the first comic to swing an election since Ralph Nader.

Speaking of Nader, I agreed with almost every word he said on Jon Stewart.
By why does his message always come with a side dish of  "Fuck the Democrats?"
 

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Change for the Better


Quotes

"I just had a Jager shot, and hope to get drunk very soon..."
    -- Andrew Suillivan, drowning in his own hate, signing off last night   Link
 

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Subject: She pulled it off! 

Bart,  I'm pumped that you don't have to jump on the Obama bandwagon! 
I think her winning Ohio and Texas proves that Obamania is starting to wane
and the appeal of having a Clinton back in the Whitehouse is strong, especially in
light of the economy. 

The longer this goes, the more people will migrate back to Clinton. 
People think it is cool to be an Obama fan, but when they really think about 
who can get it done, no question Hillary instills confidence.
 John K
 

The exit polls agree with you. That idiot Bill Schneider says the people who 
decided at the last minute broke sharply for the lady with the experience.

But I'll support whoever the Dem's nominee and her VP.
 

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http://rejectmccain.com


Plagiarism Double Dip?

MSGOP is reporting that Senior Obama advisor David Axelrod consulted with
writers from TV's "West Wing" and then MSGOP ran footage of Matt Santos 
and Obama giving identical speeches, line by line.

This Wednesday morning, many, many Democrats are wondering, "Where's the Obama beef?"

Since Obama is being accused of being "All speeches and no substance," 
can the Obama campaign afford more charges of plagiariasm?
 

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Subject: Please Don't...

...link to (that formerly great site) anymore. Those douchebags give me a headache.

Honestly, these folks could have respectfully displayed a preference for their candidate in a no-comments
editorial, then continued to point out the lies and hypocrisies of the mainstream media or the important
but ignored stories displaying the flaws of the conservative mentality. That was what made them great,
but like all  the other liberal/progressive sites they had to forcefully weigh in on Obama vs. Clinton by
basically recycling the old Republican talking points of days gone by.

You know - the ones they  used to call bullshit.  The regurgitation of the ancient anti-Clinton talking points 
is even more shocking when I consider that these folks are Dems, or at least claim to be. How could you 
spend so many years raging  against it, then suddenly BAM, spew it all back out like you always believed it?

I like Obama, but if I am going to vote for him in November, I really need
to stay away from his supporters because they just kill it for me.

Keep Hammerin' and Staying Balanced and Sane,
 GAJ
 

I agree.
We've lost some great sites and some great writers.

These last 60 days have been the most hateful since I've been in the business.

Gee, I wonder - who started that ball rolling?

Who was it that got us to stop fighting the Bush bastards so we could fight each other?

Who gained power by splitting the party and getting Democrats to fight Democrats?
 

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Dems sites react...


                                wehateclintons.com?
 


                                       buzzflash.com
 


                 Yahoo decided to give her Texas,
            just don't ask about Ohio (by 12!) and RI
 

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Quotes

"Ann Davidow on Betraying the Democratic Party: "But in what has become 
  a cringe-producing (If you're an Obama fan) campaign effort She also reinvigorated 
  a lot of those unfortunate feelings about the "politics of personal destruction" so often 
  associated with the Clintons (If you're an Obama fan). When was the last time a candidate 
  from one party praised an opposing party's candidate in an attempt to denigrate an 
  opponent in their own party - - and did so, it should be added, with such questionable tactics." 
    -- Monster headline (takes up the whole screen) on buzzflash.com
 

 What Hillary said was "Do at the math."
 After 25 years in the senate, how you gonna call McCain "unqualified?"

 He may be a senile and delusional warmonger with no economic sense,
 but "unqualified" isn't an applicable term for him.
 

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Subject: The Whore Press

Dude... If the 'Whore Press' was all kinda crazy nuts over Hillary
like they are over Obama would they still be the 'Whore Press'?

Or would they be responsible, objective journalists?
Just askin', mind ya...
 BadtotheboneBob
 

BtoBB, that's a damn great question.
For asking, I'm giving you 60 days of Bartcop Radio.

The answer is, all I want the sons of bitches to do is tell the truth.
They say, "We report just the facts" and then they rag on Hillary for an hour,
then the second hour is on the phenom of the miracle known as "Obama's Greatness."

Why can't they just report the facts OR say, "This is my opinion."
But no, they won't do that either.

Formerly great and sane writers like Bob Parry became mind-readers,
explaining what Hillary was thinking when she hatched her devlish schemes.

That's such horseshit!

And for the most part, it's happened in the last 90 days.
 

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fightconservatives.com


Subject: Tax rebates

The Bush Administration said each of us will get a nice rebate.
If we spend that money at Wal-Mart, all the money will go to China.
If we spend it on gasoline it will all go to the Arabs, and neither will
help the American economy.

We need to keep that money here in America, so the only way to keep that money
here at home is to buy beer or spend it on prostitution, since those are the only
businesses still in the US and plowing their money back into the US.
 Albc
 

I suggest we help some small farmers out - buy some of God's flowers.
 

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Random thought...

Wouldn't you hate to be John Lewis today?

He threw Hillary under the bus to join "certain victory" 
with the "inevitable, unstoppable Obama juggernaut."


 

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Subject: We're Hosed

Dear Bart--

I've learned over the years that the Democrats have a special talent for snatching defeat
from the jaws of victory, and I get the sickening feeling 2008 will be no different.

Can I say one thing?
We had the White House won about 90 days ago,
but a fresh-faced newcomer might've gotten an itch for power.

We  had  this  race  won, and Obama stepped in "to unite us."

The primary wars really have been unbelievably ugly.
I think the racism accusations against the Clintons are bullshit. But I also think the ugliness
of the attacks coming from Hillary supporters like Taylor Marsh (I don't know him) have been
close to lunacy. And the recent claim by Hillary that McCain is more prepared to be president
than Obama really rubbed me the wrong way.

Now, you might not agree with my interpretation, but when she says, "I've got experience,
McCain has experience, Obama just has a speech, how am I supposed to interpret it?"

I suggest you interpret it in the spirit she sent it - she was desperate, her back was against the wall.
She had the option to surrender or fight harder and she chose to fight harder - it might've worked.

I have to have an answer from someone on this: just what "experience" does Hillary specifically have?
What Clinton foreign policy move was she in on? (Did she even have security clearance on such matters?)
<snippage, but it was good - maybe next issue>
 Joe Miller
 

Joe, great question - that gets you 60 days of BCR!

I fail to see why people don't give her credit for those years.
Who thinks she was busy baking cookies when the BIG decisions were being made?
I'm not saying she made them, but I'll bet the more important the decision was,
the more she made sure Bill knew what she was thinking.

If Obama sat in on every important White House meeting, behind closed doors with
JUST the president and maybe 2-3 of his closest staffers, for eight long years,
wound that really count for nothing?

That surgeon's wife example is even more stupid than "Paris being famous for being famous."
Observing a president and his staff making 5,000 decisions over 8 years is nothing like going
to 12 years of medical school to learn Latin and doesn't everybody realize that - deep down?

Hillary probably had more access to the presidency than Gore had.
Would you count Gore's eight years as "no experience?"
 

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Random thought...

Since we last talked about Der Monkey making a fool of himself by dancing in public

while soldiers he falsely sent into war are fighting for their lives, 

the bloody child-killer has danced in public TWICE.

He was dancing for reporters today and he danced in public during his African trip.

Why don't his handlers stop him?
Why doesn't Pickles remind him those soldiers are suffering?

Why doesn't Pickles remind him that dignity is important?


 
 

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Subject: Who gained most by Bhutto's death? HOT

 Link
 

Great insights in this e-mail - you'll like it, too.
 

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AAR Dueling Quotes

"Ed, I use to love your show, but lately, all you do is tear down Hillary
in what seems like every minute of every day of every show. If she wins,
what are you going to talk about on your show?"
     -- a caller to Ed Schultz yesterday
 

"I'll talk about anything I want,
  ...and you don't deserve an answer."
     -- Ed Schultz, who then hung up on the guy
 

Why do people feel so strongly about that which they can't defend?
Ed Schultz is a professional talk show host - why can't he answer a simple question?

Sidebar: I predict Randi Rhodes will be insane with rage today - I'm going to listen.

Sidebar: Last night on MSGOP, Rachel Maddow (major Obama fan) said Obama
"looked like a bunny" to many liberals because he's seen as "can't fight back."

Sidebar: Former good-guy media stars who bet their careers on Obama may have
a problem and Keith Olbermann might be at the top of that list..
 

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Subject: Hillary's big victories

Bart, if poor old Barack can't take the wee bit of heat that Hillary is giving him, 
what the hell is he going to do when the swift boating starts? If he ends up being 
the nominee, he ought to thank Hillary for giving him at least a tiny idea of what it 
might be like down the road!

And what if there is an Obama /Clinton or Clinton /Obama ticket?
One of the Faux News people was saying last night that with as much time and money 
as both campaigns have spent, that there was no way they would trot out a Bill Richardson, etc. 

Man, if that's the ticket, it's really going to be funny to see how the Hillary bashers react!
 UHMonster
 

I think it's going to be more "bloody" than "funny."
 

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President Bear - Episode One


We Hate Hillary Quotes

"If Obama will not stand up and fight back then it does not matter how many delegates
he has he will not win this nomination nor will he deserve it. If he is going to continue 
the sickening rhetoric like "Clinton will make a great president "then she will be." 
    -- Zeusthunderbolt,    Link
 

"Dear God, Am I going to have to vote for Nader?"
   -- unsolved999, an Obama supporter, upset about Hillary's wins,   Link
 

"Hillary not so much the new Comeback Kid as the new Freddie Krueger." 
     -- Lucianne.com, 


 

If Hillary ends up as the president, there is one bright side:
Bob Parry, Andrew Sullivan and Arianna will still have careers.
 

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Subject: you're the only one I can read anymore

Bart, I am SO SICK of reading and hearing about how horrible Hillary is,
and how wonderful Obama is, even if no one really knows whether he is wonderful or not.

At least for the moment we can stop hearing about how Hillary simply HAS to drop out. 
I'm sure since she won Texas and Ohio, they'll all just suggest rather than demand she drop out. 

And why aren't people from the states that have not held primaries screaming bloody murder 
at those who say it should be over? Don't they want their votes to count?
Best,
 Dogfolks
 

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Subject: A Pattern of Behavior and Mystery Quotes

First-off Bart, you wrote:

> "But the problem remains the same - if Hillary wins TX and OH and Virginia, 
>  and Obama wins Rhode Island, the whore press will scream, "Another Obama Sweep." "

This morning, Joe "I don't even know that dead-girl" Scarborough had Obama on for an interview. 
And they were quick to explain Obama's superdelegate lead and to dismiss that he all but lost the day yesterday.
-Score one for Bart

Press finally asks Obama a question  and Wilson's Article
- I tried to explain that to some of my hooked-on-hope progressive friends, but it's about as futile as trying to 
get the vulgar Pigboy to put away the oxy.   As a lifelong Buffalo Sports fan I can tell you all about the 
Audacity of Hope - and the hill of bullshit it often amounts to; only this is more serious than pro sports.
-Bart's a +2

Ross the Monkey Mailer
> "Find every stupid voter in America and explain it to them..."

> "You say there's no harm in dressing "like a terrorist" when seeking votes from idiots.
>   I say there is.

> I think we'd both agree it ought not to be a factor, but then, neither is color or sex 
> but how many non-white men have been elected to the presidency? "

Now Bart, 2 is a coincidence and 3 is a pattern.

I've got to admit though, its tough to watch you constantly have to answer rediculous criticism 
on some well thought-out and very serious questions that you ask. I know what its like, I live in a 
liberal area of the northeast - people sometimes just fail to see the real world out there - and you're 
one of my last bastions on the net where I can read some sense and a skeptical point of view.

Keep Swinging - for everyone's sanity
-Jeff in NY

P.S.

> "These Clintons are like cockroaches. 
>  They'll be the last thing left after a nuclear blast." 
     - that was Rush the Vulgar Pigboy 

You are correct - Rush is the Cockroach King
 

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Subject: WTF?

Bart,

I just finished removing about fifteen so-called progressive websites from my 'favorites' list. 
I've never seen so much hatred spewed at Clinton and us 'dummies' in Ohio who voted for her. 
I would expect that kind of crap from Rethuglican sites, but from those supposedly on our side? 

Frankly, I'm ashamed.  And worried.  Worried because time after time, I'm reading statements 
from our 'bretheren' stating that they would vote for McInsane before they would vote for Hillary. 

I'm finally seeing how Bush got a second term.  And I'm scared shitless that these 'pony wanters' 
will put another Rethug in the Oval Office.  I don't think this country could stand another four years 
of Rethug rule...or another hundred years of war in Iraq, if you believe what McCain says.

Like you, I have my preferences regarding who our Dem candidate will be. 
And, like you, I will vote for whoever becomes the Dem standard bearer. 
I wish these 'progressives'  would make the same pledge...to do otherwise can only spell disaster.

Keep hammerin'
 Dick C
 

If we can get past this civil war, most people will return to their senses.
But I think we've lost Bob Parry, Donna Brazile and Keith Olbermann forever.
 

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Mukasey's Paradox

 Link

 Excerpt:
Mukasey's Paradox dates back to his confirmation hearings, when he denied knowing what 
waterboarding was and then (when it was defined for him) refused to recognize it as torture.
In fact, it is not only a crime under U.S. law, it is a well-defined war crime under international law.

But if he admitted waterboarding was a crime, then it was a crime that had been authorized by Bush
-- an admission that would trigger calls for both a criminal investigation and impeachment. Mukasey's 
confirmation was facing imminent defeat over his refusal to answer the question when Chuck Schumer 
and Feinstein suddenly rescued him, guaranteeing that he would not have to answer it.

Once in office, and asked to order a criminal investigation of the program, Mukasey refused. 
His rationale left many lawyers gasping: Any torture that occurred was done on the advice of counsel 
and therefore, while they may have been wrong, it could not have been a crime for CIA interrogators 
or, presumably, the president. If this sounds ludicrous, it is. Under that logic, any president can simply 
surround himself with extremist or collusive lawyers and instantly decriminalize any crime. 
 
 

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Subject: Obama hysteria

Bart, you asked:

> When you demonize your opponent, how can you ask your followers to vote for a demon? 

What a guy Bart! 
Thank you for aluding to another clear and concise example of Bush era neo politics.

McCain rushs to bury his nose in GWBush's ass after he wins the GOP nomination even though 
GWBush mashed a cream shit pie in McCain's face when they opposed each other.

Maybe a light will blink on above the democratic candidates heads and they will realize, 
when hit with a cream shit pie, it's in the parties best interest to kiss and make up. 
If they don't we're screwed for good.
 DFG in Blue PA
 

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Subject: will Obama screw his future in politics?

Hey Bart, if what I am seeing is any  indication then Obamamania is over, done, kaput.

I work with an Obamaniac and he came in to work this morning march 4, in a  good mood 
considering his guy lost 3 out of 4.   He actually said that since Obama had lost Ohio and Texas 
that it is time for him to withdraw and help reunite the party under Hillary.

Now Bart this ain't just some kid who was swept up in the Obamania.
He was a die hard supporter and financial contributor, he and his wife both gave 
and supported the Obamamania.

But they both seem to think it's time to get behind Hillary.

I think it's gonna be a day or two, but I think he will withdraw and  indeed even help Hillary.
Hell, he ain't about to blow his 2016 run by dissing her. He'd be a fool,  right?

Anyway thanks for all you do.
 Tim
 

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