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 Weekend-Monday  May 16-18, 2009  Vol 2336 - Angel Bucks 

Quote of the Day

"Whatever you think of Dick Cheney, 
   he's not ashamed of his record.
      -- Pat Buchanan,     Link

 I understand Hitler was proud of his record, too.

In Today's Tequila Treehouse...
Arrow Obama Reasons with Crazies 
Arrow They're Obama's wars now  HOT
Arrow Gregory Yawns At Torture  HOT
Arrow We tortured to justify war HOT
Arrow Buyer's Remorse on Obama  
Arrow What's Good for the Country HOT
Arrow Cruising with Fascist Dogs    
Arrow Stacy Keibler's Preakness  



Mike Malloy Live


"No one wants to suffer a beat-down. No one wants to be humiliated or embarrassed. I was shocked at Jon Stewart's behavior. 
I wish he knew about a lot of things that I had done, because I think he would've thanked me instead of attacked me...I think the 
attack on CNBC and the attacks on me were gravely misplaced. It was rather remarkable in that it was so clear that his goal was 
to just destroy me. One day he'll answer for it." 
     -- Jim Cramer, crushed by Jon Stewart,    Link

 But Jim, at the time you said Stewart was right and you deserved an ass-kicking.
 Why are you getting brave now?

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Obama Reasons with Crazies


It wasn't exactly the Miracle of Cana.    Obama did not change water into wine. But he almost did. Instead, Obama 
changed what protesters tried to make an ugly scene about abortion into a triumphant message about faith-based politics...

Proving that crackpots never disappear, the protests were organized by perennial loser Alan Keyes, who is still looking 
for a political race he can win, and Randall Terry, who admitted he only joined the Notre Dame protest in order to breathe 
new life into his organization, "Operation Handjob."  Sadly, they were able to persuade 74 American Catholic bishops to join them...

Catholic bishops, by definition, are right-wing crazies.

Even on the thorny issue of abortion, Obama dared suggest, common ground was possible: "Maybe we won't agree on abortion, 
but we can still agree that this is a heart-wrenching decision for any woman to make, with both moral and spiritual dimensions." 
And on that issue, too, Obama called for honest, thoughtful, faith-based debate: "Each side will continue to make its case to the 
public with passion and conviction. But surely we can do so without reducing those with differing views to caricature."

Even as Obama was urging people to reason together, three protestors kept shouting "Abortion is murder." 
But they were shouted down by the audience, and all three white males were escorted out of the arena."

Funny, if they had been protesting Bush, they would've been arrested.
Why do the cops only arrest Democrats?

My good friend The Hollywood Liberal was arrested in New York in 2004. His crime?  Following a policeman 
as he led protesters across the street where they were arrested for being on the wrong side of the street.

But when you bother a Democrat they merely make you leave.

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I didn't know either 
so I looked it up.



"Republicans who are dragging Pelosi into the torture debate are, perhaps unwittingly, encouraging Democrats 
to defend her with a full investigation of the Bush White House -- unless, of course, she does have something to hide...
Democratic leaders seemed content to let sleeping dogs lie, but the GOP counter-offensive claiming that Pelosi knew 
about torture opens the door to a full investigation to settle the matter -- if for no other reason, so that the Speaker can 
defend herself. Republicans cannot complain about an investigation if they are going to hurl accusations that must be examined." 
    --  Craig Crawford,   Link

 Fine - so hold hearings with everybody under oath and let's see what happens.

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They're Obama's wars now 
 by Gene Lyons 


After inheriting two bungled wars, the Obama administration has gotten a pass from citizens troubled by economic fears. 
The president even ventured a mild joke during a "60 Minutes" interview. "If you had said to us a year ago that the least of 
my problems would be Iraq, which is still a pretty serious problem," Obama said, "I don't think anybody would have believed it."

That grace period appears over. Recent events in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan make it clear that all the charm and 
good intentions in the world haven't altered the fundamental situation.

Six years into the American occupation, there's still no assurance that Iraq won't careen into civil war after U.S. troops withdraw. 
Sectarian violence has risen ominously. A recent Pentagon report obtained by The New York Times concluded that only 17 of 175 
Iraqi army battalions and two of its 34 National Police battalions can stand on their own. Surge or no surge, the political compromises 
necessary to sustain democracy haven't been made.

Iraq remains three nations under one name. The Bush/Cheney team's blunders -- invading on the cheap, bungling the occupation
-- have left the president no good options. They broke it. But after U.S. troops pull out, Obama will own it.

One thing's for sure - they're Obama's headache now.

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"Is it a potential Mexican standoff?  Democrats feel they have the goods on the (Bush bastards) 
to drag out hearings on what they knew about Iraq and when. Now Republicans have the goods, 
presumably, on Nancy Pelosi about what she knew about interrogation and when. So to avoid 
mutual self-destruction, both parties cease and desist."  
    --  Neil Cavuto, liar and whore,    Link

 Pelosi is expendable.
 If it can be proven that she knew, she needs to step down.

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 Subject: I agree with Cenk

Regarding Obama's reversal on releasing the detainees abuse pictures. 
As a loyal democrat and patriot, I find no better opportunity to resolve the torture issue once and for all than at this time.

You have 11% approval rate Cheney, running around espousing how wonderful torture is. You have Colin Powell’s former 
chief of staff, Larry Wilkerson completely contradicting, WITH FACTS, every point Cheney makes regarding torture. 
You have Charles Duelfer, former WMD investigator in Iraq, coming out and saying that the only reason they tortured 
detainees was to get an Iraq-Al Qaeda connection. You have Nancy Pelosi saying the CIA lied to her.

Jesus Bart. What more could you have to win with?

When I have a 2-balls and no strikes count when pitching, I have the batter right where I want him/her.

This is an 0-2 count, and you want Obama to turn into Harry Reid?

ha ha
No, we can't have that.

Cenk is correct. This is stupid to appease the generals. 
Uh, Obama . . . you’re the Commander in Chief, remember?

And, at the end of the day, it’s not like the Republicans can say 
the Dems went after them. Cheney started the whole “Cheney” Reaction.

This reminds me of Clinton and the the gays-in-the-military issue in 1993.
That prick Sam Nunn announced that Clinton would jeep his campaign promise "Over my dead body."
Sam Nunn was busy planting road mines in Clinton's presidency so Bill was forced to play defense.

Putting the right-and-wrong of it aside for a moment, Should Clinton have risked his presidency on that?
Or was he right to back down, and then go on to have perhaps the last eight great years my generation will see?
(That's f-ing sad, but probably true.)

Obama handled this clumsily, but "betraying the military" isn't a label he needs right now.

Like with Clinton, should Obama have risked his presidency and the next eight years on those photos?
If Obama has a failed presidency, we could be looking at another 4-8 years of Bush-like nightmares. 

I'm thinking he doesn't need another mega-disaster on his plate right now.

That's just my opinion - your opinion is just as valuable.

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David Gregory Yawns At Torture News
 Rove's dancing partner helps Neocons when he can



Gregory is fascinated by Pelosi, and how shiny she is! On the matter of her being briefed on torture, Gregory reports 
something widely known: "There is no evidence she was pushing back even internally." But that's only part of the story! 
Pelosi is not the onion, she's the peel! There is no evidence that ANY of the people briefed on these techniques pushed back, 
even internally. One would imagine that watching Nancy Pelosi sidestep her way through an ungainly press conference 
might inspire someone to track down the rest of those who were briefed and stayed silent.

Gregory reports, "Other people who were [at these briefings], Republicans who were there, are saying it is clear as day. 
What they were asking for and what they were already doing." Does Gregory not realize that these sources have openly 
confessed to the very thing that the press is trying to hound out of Nancy Pelosi?"

It's the job of the whore press to excuse the crimes of Republicans
and hound Democrats for possible or potential rule infractions.

In other words, 4,300 dead soldiers and an empty Treasury can be excused
but almost-sex with an intern needs to be fully investigated.

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"Due to "process" reporting we have learned that the Torture Years were not the responsibility of the (Bush bastards)
the legal counsel who found legal justification for them, the medical personnel who stood by and watched, the talking heads
who justified torture based upon a TV show, or the actual torturers who unquestioningly did the dirty work. Now the Village 
elders have decided that Nancy Pelosi is a witch who turned us into awful people and by burning her we will be made whole again."
   -- TBogg,    Link

 But isn't Pelsoi held to a higher standard than the GOP troglodytes?

 We expect a Democrat to say no to torture, not encourage it by assuring 
 the torturing bastards that they won't be held accountable for their crimes.

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 Subject: Cartoonist Bill Day

The guy who did that under-the-credit-cards-thimb cartoon you posted Friday was recently laid off 
by his newspaper (the Memphis Commercial Appeal) and now he can't find another steady job doing 
what he does so well. His work is syndicated but I imagine that's not nearly enough to pay the bills. 
He's looking at the possibility of losing his home.


I consider Bill a friend and I hate that he's going thru that.
Meanwhile the super-rich who stole all those trillions get to keep their loot.

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"One of the biggest mistakes that is made in Washington 
  is this notion you have to dumb things down for the public."
     -- Obama, who probably had his fingers crossed when he said that,    Link

 One big reason Gore and Kerry "lost" is they were too smart
 and many people wanted to drink a beer with the stupid guy.

 It's Bart's Law # 14

 There's no limit to how stupid some people can be. 

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We tortured to justify war
 by Joe Conason


The single most pertinent question that Dick Cheney is never asked -- at least not by the admiring interviewers he has encountered so far
-- is whether he, Rumsfeld and Bush used torture to justify the illegal invasion of Iraq. As he tours television studios, radio stations and 
conservative think tanks, the former vice-president hopes to persuade America that only waterboarding kept us safe for seven years.

Yet evidence is mounting that under Cheney’s direction, "enhanced interrogation" was not used only to prevent imminent acts of terror 
or collect actionable intelligence -- the aims that he constantly emphasizes -- but to invent evidence that would link al-Qaida with Saddam 
and connect the late Iraqi dictator to the 9/11 attacks.

In one report after another, from journalists, former administration officials and Senate investigators, the same theme continues to emerge: 
Whenever a prisoner believed to possess any knowledge of al-Qaida’s operations or Iraqi intelligence came into American custody, 
CIA interrogators felt intense pressure from the Bush White House to produce evidence of an Iraq-Qaida relationship (which contradicted 
everything that U.S. intelligence and other experts knew about the enmity between Saddam’s Baath Party and Osama bin Laden’s jihadists). 
Indeed, the futile quest for proof of that connection is the common thread running through the gruesome stories of torture from Gitmo to 
Egyptian prisons to the CIA's black sites in Thailand and elsewhere.

Joe has a good point.
If only Cheney would agree to a interview with a harsh interrogator - like Letterman or Jon Stewart.

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Buyer's Remorse 
 Can we trade in Obama for someone with a conscience?


Anyone who has ever wasted good money on a clunker knows the feeling. It's like a swift-kick in the groin followed 
by weeks of fist-pounding rage. It's called buyer's remorse; "Gawd, I wish I hadn't bought that piece of dogshite!"

No doubt there are a lot of former-Obama supporters feeling that same agonizing sense despair even though it's 
been less than three months since President Rainbow took the oath of office.

What a disaster. Did anyone know it was gonna be this bad?

For the record; I didn't vote for Obama because I didn't like the way he backpedaled on wiretapping and because he 
promised to escalate the war in Afghanistan. (Like everyone else who voted for Ralph Nader; I got loads of grief for it) 
But I wanted Obama to succeed. I did. The country is in too big a mess NOT to hope that he would succeed. But now...?

I think anyone who voted for Nader has given up their right to complain.

But, Obama is going to get his share of Democratic backstabbing, and maybe more than his share.
It's my opinion Obama ran on a all-things-to-all-people platform and naturally he'll pay for that as 
those idealists get their dreams crushed by the harsh political realities of the day.

Many Obama voters saw him as the "perfect" candidate and it turns out he's human.

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Subject: Pelosi 

Bart, Russ Feingold said, "From what I've heard so far, these photos should be released." 
Somehow this reminds me of the videos kids make of their malicious and vicious behaviour in order to memorialize their stupidity. 

Ain't life a bitch?

The cops want to arrest teenagers for "sexting" nude photos of themselves
but sexually torturing helpless prisoners left in your "care" goes unpunished.

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"I will buy Hawaii, Obama's birthplace, from the United States and lease it 
  to the Israelis who will go to live there - so that they don't kill children in Gaza."
     -- 12 year old Iranian presidential candidate Kourosh Mozouni,     Link 

 I see a couple of problems here:
Kid, you owe me $5 for stealing my idea
Hawaii isn't for sale, but there's plenty of land in Oklahoma that is
They don't want safety - they want to be surrounded by millions of Arabs who want them dead.
    You see, the non-existant God "gave" them that "sacred sand" and that means more to them than 
    watching their kids grow up safely and having kids of their own.

   It's called "religious insanity" and it's as common as sand over there.   

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Subject: Pelosi the Stupid

Pelosi should be thrown out of office for being bone stupid.

If I were being briefed by the CIA, I'd ask for a ttenographer, so as to have a paper record of any classified briefing.
Keep the transcript classified if you must,  but make a transcript and have everyone at the meeting sign it.  
IF/When the day comes, you can just ask the President to declassify those transcripts and use them in your defense.

No Stenographer, no meeting. Plain and simple. 
Pelosi could've saved herself a LOT of trouble just by thinking ahead. 
And we thought Bush was the dumbest official in Washington?
    --dave, temporarily in Ashland, OR

Yes, she HAS to have a way to record that meeting - otherwise the CIA dude could ask for a meeting,
and ask, "So, how's the kids and the family life going?" and claimed he totally briefed her on everything.

If she's too stupid to defend herself against lying Fascist dogs, then she ought not to be speaker.

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 Subject: Thank you

Obama released the memos, so I thought: 
"He's GOT to be one of the good guys. He could have tried to cover up the crimes."

Then, Obama hid the pictures, so I thought: "He's compromised. He's covering up the crimes."
Now, I'm hoping this is all part of a grand political strategy to ensure war crimes are prosecuted.

Every time you endorse Obama, you give me hope.
Every time Obama plays the game, I lose it.
Guess I'll keep reading BartCop.
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Knowing 'What's Good for the Country'
 by Robert Parry


When Obama reversed himself on releasing photos of U.S. soldiers abusing detainees in Afghanistan and Iraq, he offered 
the usual "patriotic" excuse, that the images might fuel anti-Americanism and cost the lives of U.S. soldiers.

That argument has a powerful emotional appeal – especially when juxtaposed against the abstract counterargument regarding 
“the public’s right to know” – but the truth is much more complex than Obama and other advocates for this secrecy acknowledge.

Indeed, one could argue that the sanitizing of war by both U.S. politicians and the press over the last couple of decades – supposedly 
for “the good of the country” – has contributed to the deaths of many more U.S. soldiers and foreign civilians than any disclosure might have...

In my three decades-plus in Washington journalism, I have witnessed the creeping opportunism behind this claim of doing “what’s good 
for the country,” which usually translates into keeping unpleasant truths from the American people and spares politicians and journalists 
from the difficult task of having to speak ill of some U.S. government actions.

But - Obama didn't torture anybody - he's not covering up his crimes.
I'll ask Bob Parry the same question I asked you, the reader:
Should Obama bet his presidency on those photos?

I think that's asking too much.

That's all Obama needs is for word to get out that he's not welcome on an army base, not welcome 
on any navy ship, not welcome to speak to any of the troops - that's the last thing he needs right now.

I think those photos should've been released, and we can question his reasoning
but he's not covering up his own crimes so let's remember that..

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From the LA Times

Subject: Cheney's legacy


Last week, Cheney said that he would choose Rush Limbaugh over Colin Powell when it comes to 
the future vision of the Republican Party. George W. Bush and Cheney did such a good job of destroying 
the Republican Party that, as a Democrat, I have encouraged Republicans to listen to Cheney.

In a party in which failure is considered to be the new success, I wish Cheney all the success he deserves.

Marc Perkel
San Bruno

Thanks to Tally for spotting that.
Good luck in Vegas, Tally!

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Subject: Obama wrong on abortion exemption

I'm rather disturbed about Obama's "compromise" to the religious right to "offer a conscience exemption to Americans 
who think abortion is wrong". What Obama doesn't understand is the medical care is about the patient and not about the doctor. 
Are we now going to allow Jehovah's Witness doctors to refuse to give a blood transfusion to a bleeding patient because 
the doctor has a moral problem? Do we allow Seventh Day Adventist doctors to refuse to work on Saturday?

Obama is so willing to please everyone that he loses track of the fact that the person who gets to choose is the patient. 
If the doctor can't provide for the wishes of the patient then they should get a job as a priest and stay out of medicine. 
The last thing we need are Christian doctors imposing their moral values on Atheists or Atheist doctors imposing their 
moral values on Christians. Different people have different values and who gets to choose? 

The patient chooses. Not the doctor, not the government, not God, not Obama. My body, my life, my choice.

Marc Perkel
San Bruno, CA.

My blog: http://marc.perkel.com
Founder of the Church of Reality
"Reality Based Voter"

I agree with Perkel.
We have pharmacists who don't want to dispense the Morning After pill.
Once we start making exceptions, we'll have doctors and nurses and orderlies
refusing to assist certain patients and that's not how the medical field should work.

What's next?
Born again pilots who refuse to fly passengers who aren't saved?

If you can't handle the job, find a new profession.

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Is Spanking Torture?

The pro-torture people, the Christians, are also more likely to spank their kids.

The idea is the same:
"Do what I demand or I'll burn your ass with a boatload of pain."

Think of it - the sexual humiliation of having to drop your pants and bare your ass, perhaps even 
in front of your brothers and sisters, and then the intense pain to go with the humiliation?

All that's missing is Lyndie England smoking a cigarette.

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How good is your word?

On last night's Survivor finale, (I know none of you watch - just like none of you watch America Idol :)
young J.T. from rural Alabama was faced with a choice - do I keep my word or do I win the million dollars?

Turns out he did both.

Against conventional wisdom, he took the stronger player to the finals, which impressed the jury,
but then the ungrateful rival repaid his kindness by turning into a shark and stabbing him in the back.

The back-stabber didn't get a single vote.

Oh, and super-obnoxious, self-aggrandizing Coach was lying all the time.
That phony lie detector trick appeared to fool Jeff but it didn't fool me..

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 Subject: Drug War Pointless


The first time Nixon was elected President he listened to his experienced advisors on the issue of hard drugs and chose 
treatment over incarceration.  He also gave the green light to methadone clinics so people could meet their needs and not 
engage in crime to do so.  Because people realized they could get help and not jail, heroin and other hard drugs use dropped.  
The blue ribbon panel of conservative scientists he convened to investigate marijuana use recommended decriminalization; 
it was shelved, ignored.

When he was up for re-election he ran on a ‘get-tough-on-crime’ platform coupled with the realization that 15-20% of the 
returning Viet Nam vets may be hooked on heroin and started to back –off.  Carter did nothing different but the election 
of Reagan meant all the clinics were closed and all the money diverted to interdiction and a massive expansion of government 
into people’s lives, which, even under Clinton, has continued to grow, unabated.

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